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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 16th of December 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 00:12
    [caesar] Greetings Gerardo!
  2. Sean Elliott
    @seanus1138
    Dec 16 02:57

    Hey guys, has anyone experienced an issue on iOS in landscape with Voiceover on that when you expand an accordion the focus jumps to an odd place?

    http://www.oaa-accessibility.org/examplep/accordian1/

    If you go to the above link, in portrait with VO on and set you focus on the "Veggies" accordion element (tapping once) and then expand it (double tap) the element then opens but the focus stays on that element you double tapped.

    BUT the problem lies with landscape.

    If you refresh the page in landscape with VO on and set you focus on the "Veggies" accordion element (tapping once) and then expand it (double tap) the element then opens but the focus jumps to an odd element, for me it jumps to the "thick and cheesy" radio button.

    Is this a known issue with landscape and Voiceover? I can recreate it on my own accordion the one above and also this one (https://a11y.nicolas-hoffmann.net/accordion/)

    Has anyone else seen or experiences this before. Just for reference im on an iPhone 6 using ios 10.1.1

    Cheers Sean

  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:01
    [caesar] My iPhone's dead, so I can't test it, but you could check with the Applevis guys. They're usually across this kind of thing: http://www.applevis.com/blog/advocacy-apple-braille-ios-news/accessibility-bugs-ios-9-serious-minor
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:11

    [herin] Hi, Has anyone found a work around for the file upload inputs?

    <label for="file1">Upload File</label>

    <input type="file" id="file1" value="" size="60" name="file">
    The keyboard focus jumps to the browser button and the Labels are not announced by the screen readers.

  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:17
    [caesar] When you say the "focus jumps" you mean when navigating through the form using Tab key on the keyboard?
  6. [caesar] The "size" attribute makes me think the implementation is confused with a text input field?
  7. [caesar] http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml5_input_type_file
  8. [caesar] Native element is really just the button.
  9. [caesar] It's the only thing that can receive focus
  10. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:27
    [herin] @caesar : Thanks for the reply. Yes, will take off the size and see.
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:34
    [herin] The native input type=File has the Browse button. Even when the field is associated with the Label, as the Browse button receives focus, NVDA announces just the "Browse - Button". The screen I am on has different file upload inputs. Is it possible to change the screen reader to associate the Label when the focus is on the button?
  12. [herin] The size attribute does not make any difference
  13. [herin] Otherwise, need to go back to design team
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:45
    [caesar] nvaccess/nvda#5326
  15. [caesar] Seems to be a Firefox "problem"
  16. [caesar] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1316965
  17. [caesar] This is what Mozilla has to say about it
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 03:53
    [caesar] I tried both aria-label and aria-labelled by, but neither affects the Browse button... not sure if there is a workaround... :(
  19. [caesar] Somebody else suggested putting a focus stop on a span prior to the <input> so that it reads...
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Dec 16 04:17
    [herin] :(
  21. [herin] Thanks @caesar . Hope the browsers fix these issues soon. Its annoying to fix the browser issues.
  22. [herin] Thanks for that. I should have looked in NVDA issues first.
  23. [herin] Appreciate your help!
  24. [caesar] np
  25. Sean Elliott
    @seanus1138
    Dec 16 04:39
    @caesar : thanks for the advice about apple vis i wasnt aware of that site :)
  26. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Dec 16 18:29
    it's got a mailing list too
  27. in fact I thought that's all it was