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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 24th of January 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 00:00
    [car] @spell That flashy T-shirt is pretty darned annoying... just sayin'. And I don't have epilepsy or any vestibular thing going on or anything. You might want to tone it down a bit... ;)
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 00:20
    [marcysutton] man, that really hurts my head too.
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 00:37
    [spell] I'll pass on to designer. :)
  4. [spell] I'm not partial to it, either.
  5. Christopher Toth
    @ctoth
    Jan 24 01:24
    MAKE
  6. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jan 24 15:39
    Hey Q
  7. @ctoth
  8. Oooh, I've got some math authors who want to use an image of the equation, then have hidden MathML as an "alt text". This, because they say MathJax is not rendering their more complex equations properly.
  9. However I've seen where they've done this and the images aren't good enough quality to zoom much.
  10. Other than filing mathjax bugs, I dunno what they can really do. You can't show incorrect equations visually, and mathml isn't very good at being "alt text"
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 15:45
    [beth] @spell I vote it’s too fast. I imagine you want it fast enough for people to see that different colors are being shown, but making the animation too fast can make it look cheap. Like an annoying sidebar ad.
  12. [spell] Thanks, @beth and all. I'll pass on for sure. I do agree!
  13. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 16:39
    [melsumner] I generally use a tab to arrive at a composite component, and then use arrow keys to navigate around inside of that component. But what about a grid that has editable elements? Usually I'd say NBD but some of these business app type of editable grids have pages of records. I feel like it's logical to keep to this pattern even though there are editable fields (typically interactive elements) inside- thoughts on this? Okay or no?
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 16:45
    [melsumner] (Or, is there another approach I should consider?)
  15. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 17:14
    [car] @melsumner It sounds like you agree with the latest guidance for grid in the APG: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#grid (i.e. use arrows to move inside grid). They have this extra bit of advice for the grid designers: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#gridNav_focus
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 17:21
    [melsumner] Thank you @car thumbsup emoji
  17. Jonathan Neal
    @jonathantneal
    Jan 24 18:38
    I apologize for the cringe you might experience reading this question; has there ever been an SEO study on the usage of role="heading" aria-level="{n}" vs <h{n}>, and what ranking impact there might have been?
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 18:46
    [karlgroves] Best ESLint rule ever http://eslint.org/docs/rules/no-script-url
  19. [karlgroves] I’m not aware of any definitive information on SEO & ARIA. I’d argue the safe route, personally.
  20. Jonathan Neal
    @jonathantneal
    Jan 24 19:06
    Thanks @karlgroves. I was asking in case some discovery was done out of https://github.com/ThePacielloGroup/html5-h
  21. I’ll also ping @stevefaulkner ^^ just in case. :)
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 22:41
    [herin] Hi, Good Day! Has anyone tried to include Aria-attributes in struts tags? Do you have any reference link that I can share with my team? We have an application that uses structs 1.3.8.
    Customizing the tags is ridiculously time-consuming. Has anyone found any workaround?
  23. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 23:11
    [quidkid] hey guys, I’m trying to make a form accessible and there is a check box for agreeing to have read terms and conditions. right now, the tab index is set so it hits the check box before the terms and conditions link but shouldn’t it hit the terms and conditions link first?
  24. [caesar] The link is inside the label?
  25. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 23:33
    [caesar] @quidkid I asked a related question many moons ago and, if I understood him correctly, Steve Faulkner suggested that the HTML spec recommends against links inside labels: https://web-a11y.slack.com/archives/general/p1472625193000238
  26. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jan 24 23:59
    [herin] Data Tables - Is Empty TH allowed when TDs have checkboxes / buttons?