The Verifiable Claims Task Force

A Task Force of the Web Payments Interest Group

Verifiable Claims Telecon

Minutes for 2016-03-08

Agenda
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments-ig/2016Mar/0007.html
Topics
  1. Draft Charter Proposal
  2. Material for W3C Advisory Committe Meeting at MIT
  3. Use Cases Document
  4. Expected Timeline for VCTF Charter Review
Action Items
  1. John Tibbetts to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
  2. Dan Burnett to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
  3. dezell Ezell to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
  4. Matt Stone to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
  5. Eric Korb to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
Organizer
Manu Sporny
Scribe
Matt Stone
Present
Matt Stone, Manu Sporny, John Tibbetts, Daniel C. Burnett, David Ezell, Eric Korb, Shane McCarron, Dave Longley, Peter Hofman, Colleen Kennedy, Jim Goodell, David I. Lehn, Jason Weaver, Rob Trainer, Stuart Sutton, Bill DeLorenzo
Audio Log
Matt Stone is scribing.

Topic: Draft Charter Proposal

Manu Sporny: Hoping to circulate charter at upcoming AC meeting
Manu Sporny: Anyone sent in review comments?
Crickets... only Ian Jacobs.
Manu Sporny: Need more focus on the charter - please review by Friday!!
John Tibbetts: I'll respond by Friday
Daniel C. Burnett: Manu, I have skimmed but will review by Friday
David Ezell: Thank you for all the work" -- there are a couple places where charter could be more assertive and others where it may be over assertive
ACTION: John Tibbetts to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
ACTION: Dan Burnett to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
David Ezell: Eg: protocol should do "such and such" may be better to read "could" unless it's a real requirement
Eric Korb: Should or could to "may"?
ACTION: dezell Ezell to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
ACTION: Matt Stone to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
Eric Korb: Korb will review by Friday
Matt Stone: I will review by friday as well
ACTION: Eric Korb to review VCTF Draft Charter by Friday.
Manu will move charter to webpayments IG space

Topic: Material for W3C Advisory Committe Meeting at MIT

Manu Sporny: Thinking it might be good to have small handouts of overview and links?
Shane McCarron: No, I am here - be on the call in a second
Manu Sporny: Not getting anytime on the public timeline - not doing breakout discussions in AC meeting. will have to have curbside discussions
David Ezell: Handouts are unusual - if it's the size of the business card it may be well received - as a marketing concept we might want to make it a "verifiable claim" :)
Manu Sporny: Should pull the IG in next week - timeline is VERY short.
Manu Sporny: Asking for "informal" review to socialize the charter before the official review
Manu & dezell will discuss plan offline this week to get this on the radar at AC
Manu Sporny: If we have an artifact to circulate - we'll have initial charter, minimal use cases, perhaps this business card thing. anything else?

Topic: Use Cases Document

Manu Sporny: Shane reviewed the use cases and winnowed it down to use cases that support the focused charter - target about 6-8 cases
Shane McCarron: Styled and edited so it's a more readable narrative - needs a review from this group
Matt Stone: +1 On the diagrams.
Matt Stone: Thanks for the diagrams, appreciate the addition of those. [scribe assist by Manu Sporny]
John Tibbetts: I reviewed them probably while Shane was modifying them.
Manu Sporny: Concern that b/c it's so winnowed down - we haven't gone through the exercise to map this to what we actually want when the WG is done.
Manu Sporny: Please read through the document with that in mind.
John Tibbetts: The use cases for education are a less compelling. "i think a solid claim about something like an electonic transcript" might be a scenario to add
Manu Sporny: Looking for a scenario in section 4.1 where issuer is focus?
Dave Longley: +1 To adding something about e-transcripts to 4.1.1
Shane McCarron: Okay that's great feedback john - thanks!
Dave Longley: +1 To adding it because it does highlight how this is different from what you can already do with things like OpenID Connect as John said
Dave Longley: Typo: "Credentials COmmunity Groups"
Dave Longley: (Errant capital 'O')
Dave Longley: (In the Intro)

Topic: Expected Timeline for VCTF Charter Review

Manu Sporny: Neither use cases or charter are set in stone until sent for offical review. read and give feedback
Shane McCarron: Thanks for the typo comment dlongley - fixed in my patch branch now
Manu Sporny: Looks like late may/early june for review
Manu Sporny: "If things go well in the socialization process"
David Ezell: Would have more confidence if Eric had joined us today - sound like a reasonable time frame. needs enough meat in it to warrant the activity
David Ezell: Also make sure there aren't any bombshells and get people in the IG to go on record in support of it
Shane McCarron: Sorry if I missed this - when are we planning to circle back with the interviewees and survey respondents?
David Ezell: "On record" really means "supportive"
Manu Sporny: Shane, yes, we are circling back around w/ them.
Manu Sporny: Will start filling out a FAQ before we go to official review
Shane McCarron: Does it make sense to try to do anyting during the F2F of the payments people in June?
David Ezell: IG expressed interest in having a F2F this summer. not sure where/when
David Ezell: Perhaps in London during 2nd week of june
David Ezell: It's a pretty good milestone to organize this around
Manu Sporny: Anything else? no? thanks all. please complete reviews by EOW