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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 16th of November 2015

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. MichielBijl
    09:59
    Epic beard
  2. MichielBijl
    13:02
    Does visibility: hidden equal display: none in a11y terms?
  3. MichielBijl
    13:05
    VoiceOver seems to ignore stuff with visibility: hidden
  4. zakim-robot
    13:05
    [dylanb] in practice, or in theory?
  5. MichielBijl
    13:05
    I know it should in theory, but wondering about practice :)
  6. zakim-robot
    13:07
    [dylanb] I always recommend display:none because there's (at least used to be) spotty support for visibility:hidden
  7. zakim-robot
    13:07
    [dylanb] have not tested recently
  8. MichielBijl
    13:08
    I do the same thing, but wondered about the current support too.
  9. StommePoes
    14:50
    VO also has another special specialness: overflow hidden + height: 0 will hide an object from it, while so far as I know it doesn't with other SRs
  10. zakim-robot
    15:04
    [heidi] someday, all we should need is html5’s “hidden” attribute, right?
  11. stevefaulkner
    15:16

    [heidi] someday, all we should need is html5’s “hidden” attribute, right?

    you can use hidden now along with CSS [hidden] {display:none} for backwards compat

  12. zakim-robot
    15:18
    [heidi] @stevefaulkner is it currently supported by modern AT?
  13. stevefaulkner
    15:24
    @heidi in browsers that implement hidden, it is expressed using CSS display:none, so works the same as display:none browser support info here http://www.html5accessibility.com/
  14. zakim-robot
    15:24
    [heidi] ah, gotcha - thanks!
  15. stevefaulkner
    15:25
    np
  16. zakim-robot
    19:27
    [joly] Today's Quartz Next Billion has CART Live captions are at http://www.streamtext.net/player?event=Nextbl
  17. zakim-robot
    19:27
    [joly] http://isoc-ny.org/p2/8191
  18. garcialo
    22:50
    If I've got a bunch of little widgets on my sidebar...would they each get a role="complementary" or would that over complementarying?
  19. stevefaulkner
    23:16
    @garcialo Over complementerize, rule of thumb, the less landmarks the better
  20. garcialo
    23:32
    That's what I was thinking. Thanks for the confirmation. =)
  21. MichielBijl
    23:45
    Sounds like aside with sections maybe?