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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 26th of November 2015

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    08:38
    [jitendra] What are your favorite accessible and commercial websites?
  2. LjWatson
    08:39
    @jitendra I like http://gov.uk - but I have to 'fess up to being part of the team that works on it, so this isn't an unbiased opinion!
  3. zakim-robot
    08:40
    [jitendra] @ljwatson: Thanks it looks good. Though I asked for commercial website.
  4. LjWatson
    08:40
    I also think http://lakeland.co.uk has reasonable accessibility, so does http://ocado.com
  5. zakim-robot
    08:44
    [jitendra] Thanks for links. I will explore these websites
  6. MichielBijl
    11:40
    @jitendra: paciellogroup.com is commercial and ought to have good a11y. But that isn't what you're looking for I guess :p
  7. stevefaulkner
    13:56
    paging @alice are you in the lobby?
  8. stevefaulkner
    14:03
    :point_up: November 26, 2015 11:40 AM if any problems speak to/blame @patrickhlauke
  9. zakim-robot
    14:07
    [alice] @stevefaulkner oh hello!
  10. stevefaulkner
    14:14
    @alice aksed you a question in private gitter chat :-)
  11. zakim-robot
    14:14
    [alice] hops over to gitter :simple_smile:
  12. MichielBijl
    14:23

    :point_up: November 26, 2015 11:40 AM if any problems speak to/blame @patrickhlauke

    That's your excuse for everything isn't it?

  13. MichielBijl
    14:24
    I have a button that stops being a button on larger screens. Is removing events and role="presentation" enough?
  14. garcialo
    14:25
    might want to remove it from the tab order as well?
  15. garcialo
    14:25
    how does it stop being a button?
  16. MichielBijl
    14:25
    tabindex=-1?
  17. garcialo
    14:25
    That would work
  18. MichielBijl @MichielBijl never tried that
  19. garcialo
    14:25
    ...and would be the way of doing it =p
  20. MichielBijl
    14:25
    Never had to build something like this.
  21. MichielBijl
    14:25
    Haha okay
  22. MichielBijl
    14:26
    Uhm, well, it's an accordion type thing on mobile, but all expanded/not collapsible on desktop.
  23. garcialo
    14:26
    tabindex="-1" also makes something able to be programatically or mousically focusable
  24. garcialo
    14:27
    ah, gotcha
  25. MichielBijl
    14:31
    It's a mess anyway. Wanted to implement it the WCAG way, but haven't gotten around to that. And wasn't quite sure how to get the switch done between default and larger screens.
  26. MichielBijl
    14:31
    But that is another problem. If I can get styling done today, I have a full day to build in arrow key support.
  27. MichielBijl
    14:32
    Should be enough :p
  28. StommePoes
    16:32
    bleh, changing HTML to make everything a list item to get drag and drop working is a pain in IE
  29. StommePoes
    16:32
    plus the markup just seems barfworthy
  30. StommePoes
    16:32
    listception
  31. MichielBijl
    17:06
    It needs be a list-item for it to function?
  32. MichielBijl
    17:06
    role="list-item" :P
  33. StommePoes
    17:15
    you can't just throw that on any element : )
  34. MichielBijl
    17:15
    That was a joke…
  35. StommePoes
    17:15
    Even so, I now can haz totally legit listitems, still not getting keystrokes passed on : (
  36. StommePoes
    17:18
    it seems a silly restriction to have, but who knows, there might have been a good reason for it somewhere
  37. StommePoes
    17:19
    can't legally drop a li anywhere but inside a list, which doesn't have a listitem role, it has a list role... when I'm focused on a list, then I don't get to pass on my keystrokes anymore, so can never drop the item. Le sigh
  38. StommePoes
    17:33
    Okay, looks like role="application" is the only sane solution. Which is terrible.
  39. garcialo
    17:33
    Stay safe, @StommePoes
  40. MichielBijl
    17:45
    Can haz code sample @StommePoes ?
  41. StommePoes
    18:34
    huh, answer stayed red and vanished when I refreshed
  42. StommePoes
    18:34
    No I ended up breaking my code because nested lists seem to causes endless chain of triggered dragging events and now I need to throttle them cause they're making IE puke.
  43. zakim-robot
    18:38
    [bmeunier] Show/Hide Password: inside a label?
  44. zakim-robot
    21:26
    [joly] The ITU’s CWG on Internet has an open consultation now through January 15th on "Access to the Internet for Persons with Disabilities and specific needs”. Information and the specific questions are located here:
    http://www.itu.int/en/council/cwg-internet/Pages/consultation-oct2015.aspx