Gitter Channel Archive 26th of February 2016
Gitter Channel Archive 26th of February 2016
What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
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aria-label is the best approach for a text-based alternative for this and is equivalent to img[alt]
<a href="rawr.eu" aria-label="RAWR!"><svg aria-hidden="true"><path id="to-enlightment"></svg></a>?
@hmig related to aria-label
Testing screen reader label and description announcement on a elements with href http://thepaciellogroup.github.io/AT-browser-tests/acc-name-test/a-href.html
So, my revised internal ruleset
1) You are not the user.
2) The user knows only partially what they want, and expect you to work with them to get to a good end result.
3) The user's ideas will change as their information grows.
4) Embrace change.
#todo { overflow: scroll } :-/
[karlgroves] >Send them to talktous@tenon.io
+100.
My phone number and email address is on literally every page of the site
[karlgroves] > I don't use tenon
I saw your report on the CSS thing which had things labelled as error when they are not
Did you read my response? Can you offer a different argument or evidence where the tool is wrong? Say, the 100 character thing. Do you think its too short? Let’s talk about that.
Right now - I mean literally as we speak - I’m working on improving Tenon’s tests based on feedback from Alastair Duggin’s tests of various tools.
[karlgroves] I mean, honestly @jnurthen - do you think for a second that any other tool vendor gives a shit about this sort of feedback as I do?
Don’t like something? Tell me. Again, my own personal mobile number is on every page of the site.
<pre> thing is on my list to improve. The alt thing I want more feedback on. Changing it is easy, but I don’t want to say “OK, 200 is the new limit.”
[karlgroves] > although unless you have solved the logon issue it is unlikely to actually be able to test anything
Yes, buy an on-prem license
[karlgroves] Well, everything is done over HTTPS (TSL) but the thing with logins is that it is an insane target to hit. I know that it has (and continues to be) a thorn in the side of all other tool vendors, no matter waht they want to say publicly. Realm authentication and things like that are easy. Passing a cookie is easy. But then lets add in other sensible security restrictions, like measures to thwart session hijacking and the like and it gets to be a huge PITA
I recommend people use Selenium for that stuff. It kicks the shit out of anything any tool can do
[karlgroves] >but Error is enough to be "critical" to QA teams
Then the QA teams need training before they use a tool they do not understand. You don’t give someone a welder and expect them to build a bridge, do you?
The UI says anything with certainty > 80% is an error. It means we’re 100% positive that the test has failed its criteria.
The priority score should also be used to determine how to treat the issue reported. priority takes into account a number of factors, but we’ve realized that we need to separate out severity from the priority calc
[karlgroves] I had a guy email recently saying “TENON CAN’T TEST MY SITE!!!” and it was giving him 522 responses.
Come to find out they were loading like 70 huge images. Turns out it took 44 seconds on my FiOS connection to load the page.