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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 17th of March 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 00:37
    @vdurhhe, QT doesn't record system audio. And I suspect it tries to filter anything that goes over the internal speakers. I usually record using my external speakers.
  2. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 00:38
    But I guess internal should work too.
  3. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 00:42
    alt=QuickTime Player with screen recorder window showing default audio input set to Built-in Microphone. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EQaDyEPY/
  4. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 00:43
    Video I recorded with those settings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGJiCKafLg0
  5. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 00:56
    [kevinchao89] I use ScreenFlow that captures System Audio. VO is crystal clear and no background noise
  6. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 01:06
    [kevinchao89] https://www.google.com/design/spec/usability/accessibility.html
  7. fstorr
    Mar 17 04:42
    I've recorded numerous videos with Quicktime capturing the audio from my MBP's speakers and it's fine. Just find a quiet room, crank the volume, and go for it. Once you're done CMD+T opens the Trim menu and you can edit the video to chop off the beginning and end.
  8. jkva
    Mar 17 09:53
    blob
  9. jkva
    Mar 17 09:53
    I present to you, Tommy Edison being considered 'bizarre' for his drawing video. From a Dutch news website.
  10. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 10:38
    Yeah, the Dutch suck…
  11. jkva
    Mar 17 10:38
    Naah, it's just low-brow news website
  12. jkva
    Mar 17 10:38
    doesn't represent us all, just like Trump doesn't represent all Americans
  13. jkva
    Mar 17 10:38
    Or Gouda represents all cheese
  14. jkva
    Mar 17 10:38
    mmm cheese
  15. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 10:39
    Called it :P
  16. jkva
    Mar 17 10:39
    What?
  17. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 10:40
    That should've gone right after my last sentence.
  18. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 10:40
    My TunnelBear was stuck in its tunnel I guess.
  19. StommePoes
    Mar 17 14:25
    Hey guys, I'm looking here http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/text-level-semantics.html#the-a-element to try to find if an anchor has a "summary" attribute
  20. StommePoes
    Mar 17 14:25
    Which I've never heard of before
  21. StommePoes
    Mar 17 14:25
    only tables
  22. StommePoes
    Mar 17 14:25
    but, is this link up to date?
  23. garcialo
    Mar 17 14:42
    This from the working draft doesn't list summary as a permitted attribute http://w3c.github.io/html-reference/a.html#a
  24. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 14:42

    [karlgroves] >Or Gouda represents all cheese

    Bite your tongue! Especially if it is aged a long time!

  25. jkva
    Mar 17 14:42
    That was my point, no?
  26. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 14:44
    [karlgroves] IDK, you lost me at Gouda
  27. jkva
    Mar 17 14:45
    http://carboncostume.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/montereyjack.jpg
  28. StommePoes
    Mar 17 14:46
    Foo, I think whoever made our accessibility courses made a little messup then
  29. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 14:49
    [karlgroves] Yeah, summary has only ever been valid on table
  30. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 15:13
    According to my girlfriend, all Dutch cheese sucks.
  31. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 15:13
    But she likes blue cheese, so what does she know :P
  32. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 15:50
    [marcysutton] OMG WHATTTT
  33. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 15:51
    [marcysutton] I love Dutch Gouda so much https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11018060_729609710518_6754089145599485077_n.jpg?oh=818813bfd64c4f3e3c9e6f3faa8f6976&oe=578809C0
  34. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 15:52
    [marcysutton] alt: me hugging a giant table of gouda in an Amsterdam grocery store
  35. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 15:57
    [dean] hahah were you escorted out afterwards?
  36. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 16:01
    [marcysutton] I think I skipped out like a little kid with a hunk of cheese in my grip
  37. jkva
    Mar 17 16:07
    @MichielBijl clearly your girlfriend has not tasted the locally made cheese from my hometown area. That stuff is so good. salivates
  38. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:09
    @Marcy the face of that guy in the background is priceless :P
  39. jkva
    Mar 17 16:10
    .oO(...tourists)
  40. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:10
    In any case, that looks like a normal table of cheese to me.
  41. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:10
    I thought Gouda was only like the big red things.
  42. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 16:11
    [marcysutton] That table was sent to me from the cheese gods
  43. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 16:14
    [thealphanerd] pretty cheesey
  44. jkva
    Mar 17 16:15
    Too bad I can't bring cheese into the US
  45. jkva
    Mar 17 16:15
    Stroopwafels will have to do
  46. jkva
    Mar 17 16:15
    Free stroopwafel with every businesscard ;)
  47. jkva
    Mar 17 16:16
    Of course, stroopwafels are also from Gouda city
  48. garcialo
    Mar 17 16:17
    So who all is going to be at CSUN next week? Probably not enough time to have a Gitter Meetup, but would be nice to know who to be looking out for.
  49. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:17
    I don't much about cheese; to me it's not Gouda, just cheese you know.
  50. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:18
    So a Gitup?
  51. jkva
    Mar 17 16:18
    @garcialo : @MichielBijl , @StommePoes , Yours truly, I can speak for
  52. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:18
    Marcy is there
  53. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:18
    Marco
  54. jkva
    Mar 17 16:19
    We expect to meet with Jason Kiss, Billy Gregory, Karl Groves, Steve Buell, Eric Wright
  55. garcialo
    Mar 17 16:19
    okay, then we'll probably be hanging out in similar social circles
  56. garcialo
    Mar 17 16:19
    at some point
  57. jkva
    Mar 17 16:20
    I personally look very much forward to Deque-TPG-SSBBart-FreedomScientific Meetupalooza
  58. garcialo
    Mar 17 16:21
    I don't think I have the invite for that party yet =p
  59. jkva
    Mar 17 16:21
    Oh, and I was gonna arm wrestle John Foliot
  60. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:24
    I'll just drink whisky and watch…
  61. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:24
    If everybody just shows up at the Tweetup…
  62. MichielBijl
    Mar 17 16:24
    And Sunday is drink day right jkva?
  63. jkva
    Mar 17 16:24
    Looks like it, yes
  64. jkva
    Mar 17 16:25
    I've not met any of these people other than @MichielBijl and @StommePoes so I'll likely just be following @StommePoes around
  65. garcialo
    Mar 17 16:25
    When are y'all arriving/leaving?
  66. jkva
    Mar 17 16:25
    Saturday afternoon, around 3pm, so prolly out and about by 5pm
  67. jkva
    Mar 17 16:26
    And leaving the next Saturday around 10am
  68. garcialo
    Mar 17 16:26
    oh great, I arrive on Sunday; we can probably meetup before the conference starts up
  69. jkva
    Mar 17 16:26
    Splendid!
  70. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:44
    [hmig] question - has anyone else noticed that narrator doesn’t like the desc in an svg?
  71. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:45
    [hmig] example: https://jsbin.com/zavobik
  72. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:45
    [marcysutton] it’s entirely possible, <title> didn’t work in Chrome
  73. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:46
    [hmig] ...not sure if it’s because of multiple values in aria-labelledby or the desc value
  74. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:46
    [marcysutton] You might try aria-describedby instead
  75. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:46
    [hmig] it’s the only one that won’t read it
  76. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:47
    [marcysutton] and/or file a bug
  77. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:47
    [hmig] trying to figure out the issue before I file the bug
  78. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:47
    [hmig] ;)
  79. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:47
    [marcysutton] Also that SVG cat is adorable (cat emoji)
  80. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:47
    [hmig] awe, thx
  81. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:47
    [hmig] took me forever
  82. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:51
    [hmig] no dice with 'aria-describedby'
  83. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:52
    [hmig] it must ignore <desc>
  84. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 17:53
    [hmig] filing a bug now
  85. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:23
    [ellyjones] svg <title> should work in Chrome
  86. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:23
    [ellyjones] do you have a test page?
  87. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:23
    [ellyjones] @marcysutton ^
  88. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:24
    [marcysutton] Yep, test page and bug report. This has been fixed, but wasn’t in the last mainstream build I tried https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=566252&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Stars%20ReleaseBlock%20Cr%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified
  89. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:24
    [marcysutton] Ahh ha! You were the one that fixed it!
  90. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:25
    [marcysutton] =D
  91. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:28
    [ellyjones] that's why I was worried :)
  92. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:29
    [ellyjones] when Chrome 49 goes to stable, it'll be in that (so it should be in current Beta)
  93. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:30
    [ellyjones] I think, anyway... maybe I missed the branch and it'll be in 50 instead
  94. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:30
    [ellyjones] anyway, phew :)
  95. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 19:43
    [ellyjones] @hmig what's the number of the bug you filed?
  96. sophieschoice
    Mar 17 20:07
    Anyone familiar with this project: https://timeline.knightlab.com/ ? Is it accessible?
  97. jnurthen
    Mar 17 22:23
    @sophieschoice I couldn't operate https://timeline.knightlab.com/examples/user-interface/index.html using the keyboard so my guess is not a lot of thought has been done with respect to accessibility
  98. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 22:24
    [karlgroves] It is basically DIV soup
  99. jnurthen
    Mar 17 22:24
    i imagined it would be
  100. jnurthen
    Mar 17 22:31
    our timeline accepts keyboard focus and will read out the time and text to a screen reader. I do need to log a bug on the "precision" of the time being voiced though. Not sure a screen reader user really cares about the time of day when the time axis is only being shown at the week level - http://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/jet/uiComponents-timeline-basicTimeline.html
  101. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 23:04
    [karlgroves] @powrsurg: Here’s the VPAT for Tenon
    http://tenon.io/documentation/vpat.php
  102. jnurthen
    Mar 17 23:09
    @karlgroves if you want to talk about that VPAT and some things you might want to change find me at CSUN
  103. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 23:10
    [karlgroves] Totes.
  104. jnurthen
    Mar 17 23:10
    or consult a lawyer ;)
  105. zakim-robot
    Mar 17 23:15
    [karlgroves] I already owe enough money to lawyers
  106. jnurthen
    Mar 17 23:19
    they are expensive .... and the only answer they ever give is... well it depends