[ken.petri]@fstorr: probably not what you're looking for but you can always say "show numbers" in any application and then just say "click" and the number painted over the button you want. Advantage is you don't have to remember any commands...
@metzessible miscommunication - what i meant is the text in brackets is the username (from slack) so you can add @ to the text within the brackets e.g. @sotojaun
Yeah, although I hope to come together informally more often than that. Perhaps also with short talks. That really depends on how we wing this one and how the outcome will be
I assume my color contrast is probably not good on that. I never thought about it when I was building, and I have the bg color change based on the month and and icons on it never change. At least one combination has to be bad =/
[fstorr]@ken.petri: yeah, I know about that and the mouse-grid function. It takes time to use those and gets annoying quickly. Looks like I’ll have to compile my own document.
@fhalna, that's why I said +-. Since woman only count for about .5% I could have said 8.5, but this was not an exact figure in any case; so didn't really matter.
I've already run this past some mathy blinks but a11y-ers opinions also welcome, I'd like to hear some outside input before I put the lowdown on someone
When listening to a screen reader (as a sightie), often words and letters and numbers get squished together... this vendor has added commas to some math equations so that they are "to make the listening experience as easy as possible"
and since the reader they used (I'm guessing JAWS) reads out parens ( and ), and they thought this was "distracting", they've replaced ( and ) with commas
My initial reaction last week was "this would more likely confuse people as people tend to check out math that sounds dubious letter by letter, and they may thing the commas are strangely part of the equation"
and also that I thought they were using JAWS and other SRs don't read parens out by default anyway unless you up the punctuation (which maybe students do when reading math, i dunno, I should ask some)
Are there parenthesis that actually matter? I cannot recall a time when I had a parenthesis that didn't matter so that info should be read to the users.
Did they work out some way to make sure that "10" is always read as "ten" and not "one zero"? I know there are settings to force that in individual screen readers, but I never saw a way to make that explicit when I was making our SVG charts accessible.
But I did have to ensure that things like periods were added in to the text to prevent SR from reading off text in weird ways. "2 learners scored a 20. 4 learners scored a 30." vs "2 learners scored a 24 learners scored a 30".
[deborah_kaplan] my opinion is, assume that screen reader users know how to parse conventional markup, and giving them something weird will confuse them
@marcysutton RE: the math question - they should also think how it is going to render in braille. commas in a math equation is going to be really weird.
I noticed that Chrome has my captions on by default in our video player (VideoJS). Firefox and IE (probably Edge too, though I haven't checked that yet) require someone to click.
zomg: According to the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Waffle House is one of the top four corporations, along with Wal-Mart, The Home Depot, and Lowe's, for disaster response.
[deborah_kaplan] I feel like a key part of usability is expect behavior. It's like the problem with sites making their own keyboard bindings (and not clearly documenting them). It doesn't matter how clever your usability is if nobody else does it and users don't expect it, StommePoes
[marcysutton] I gave a version of that talk at SeattleJS a week ago that was longer and better, and it was recorded. When it's available I’ll let you know :)
[marcysutton] I got some great info from Marco Zehe about things that impact the a11y tree…. mainly creating/destroying objects. ARIA states only send events
[karlgroves] Birkir is asserting that the tab interface discussed in the article is not properly implemented. I think he probably didn’t examine it closely enough as it looks right to me
It does look right, but it looks like one of the issues here that SA complains about is actually an issue with the way SR are implementing things. I'd argue that is a bug in the software, not an issue with the best practice
I do get how a real world user can be confused by not being able to tab to the next part of a tabpanel thanks to the tabindex="-1" on the links. I've never liked that idea personally.
there was an implementation for the schema.org pages (tho I don't know if it ever went live) and the inability to scroll the page down to read those long chunks of examples was maddening, because down arrows moved to the next tab
Gitter Channel Archive 25th of April 2016
