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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 3rd of June 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 07:46
    Morning Slackers!
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 07:55
    [jitendra] morning
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 11:06
    [michiel] o/
  4. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 11:10
    irccloud grumble grumble
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:06
    [michiel] Any dutchies in the room?
  6. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:06
    YEa
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:07
    [michiel] How would you translate this: “Normal text passed at level AA”
  8. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:07
    Welke tijdsvorm?
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:07
    [michiel] Normale tekst slaagt op level AA
  10. [michiel] It's the result from a test you've done.
  11. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:07
    voldoet aan
  12. level == niveau
  13. "Normale tekst voldoet aan niveau AA"
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:08
    [michiel] That could work
  15. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:08
    "Dat zou kunnen werken"
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:09
    [michiel] =.=
  17. [michiel] Normale tekst faalt niveau AA
  18. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:09
    ;)
  19. Hang out with you too much
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:09
    [michiel] As the opposing thingy.
  21. [michiel] Haha, yeah that's it ;)
  22. [michiel] 1.4.3 Contrast (Minimum): Tekst (en afbeeldingen van tekst) hebben een contrast ratio van tenminste 4.5:1, behalve als de tekst alleen decoratief is. Bij grote tekst (op zijn minst 18 punten of 14 punten en vet) of afbeeldingen van tekst volstaat een contrast ratio van 3:1.
  23. [michiel] Is that readable at all?
  24. [karlgroves] No
  25. [karlgroves] I understand 6 of those words
  26. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:14
    "op zijn minst" --> minimaal
  27. "vet" --> vet gedrukt
  28. "tenminste" --> ten minste
  29. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:14
    [michiel] Thanks Job
  30. [michiel] Karl, you're fired.
  31. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:15
    I'll bill Mike
  32. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 12:15
    [michiel] You can have a drink on him the 18th ;)
  33. [karlgroves] You can’t fire me, where will I get my weird-but-awesome-waffle-syrup-cookies
  34. [michiel] role=drinks ;)
  35. [michiel] Just come over dude
  36. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 12:20
    Haha
  37. You can give a lightning talk via hangout ;)
  38. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jun 03 14:14
    Karl, Steve is buying airline tickets and booking a hotel JUST TO COME TO ROLE-DRINKS you can do it man
  39. Or, Adrian Roselli is listed as "might come" he's also in the US, not sure how that got in there
  40. Steve Buell got a pack of stroopwafels in a care package
  41. amongst other goodies
  42. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jun 03 14:23
    Wad just given some more mathy things to look at... visually interactive graphs... and these work really well with keyboard! Wow
  43. I iz amazballz'd.
  44. Though I only took a really quick look, and no idea how well it deals with AT
  45. Aw. Ultimately a canvas element with a tabindex of 1000
  46. well, at least that's not over 9000
  47. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jun 03 14:35
    LinkedIn keeps bugging me to connect to Brad Frost. Sorry, never met the guy
  48. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Jun 03 14:39
    There has to be a 508 or WCAG recommendation against using presentation tags like <u>, right?
  49. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jun 03 14:50
    probably only regarding "don't trick people into thinking something's clickable that's not"
  50. <u>'s still allowed for, apparently, Chinese proper names.
  51. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 14:57
    [michiel] 4.1.2
  52. [karlgroves] Why?
  53. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jun 03 15:03
    I reserve the right to continue to use <i> and <b> for typographic reasons. <u> lost that when computers came along to italicise everything though
  54. and underline was appropriated by hyperlinks
  55. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 15:22
    [michiel] Karl: because reasons?
  56. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 18:11
    [michiel] I'm off to CERN for the weekend, have a nice weekend all!
  57. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Jun 03 18:11
    don't collide with anything
  58. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 18:12
    [karlgroves] Keep your hands to yourself!
  59. [michiel] I have Mathilde looking after me; she promised that to Marco.
  60. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 18:22
    [michiel] We'll see though: http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/03/dont_stick_your_head_in_the_large_hadron_collider.html
  61. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 19:59
    [nathanhammond] If anybody from Apple is lurking, here is an incredibly detailed VoiceOver bug report: https://github.com/ember-a11y/ember-a11y/issues/1#issuecomment-223673310
  62. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Jun 03 20:12
    but did they actually log a bug?
  63. ah I see it is you?
  64. did you log it?
  65. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 21:16
    [nathanhammond] I'm filing it via bugreport.apple.com now.
  66. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 22:06
    [nathanhammond] https://openradar.appspot.com/26630697
  67. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Jun 03 22:27
    excellent - i was just channeling @cookiecrook
  68. @nathanhammond your issue also reproduces on iOS too
  69. VOs focus handling algorithm is the bane of my existance
  70. It needs to just put focus where i tell it to go dammit
  71. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 22:36
    [nathanhammond] @jnurthen Good to know that it reproduces on iOS. I've tried really hard to make it easy to track down.
  72. [nathanhammond] Opened a second one while I was at it: https://openradar.appspot.com/26632071
  73. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 23:36
    [marcysutton] Whoa I haven’t been in here in a few hours and I came back to a really hard to read font!
  74. [marcysutton] Why the light font?!
  75. [alexlande] ha: https://twitter.com/alexlande/status/738829734046367744
  76. [marcysutton] I see it in here and the Angular Slack, but not the Deque one… weird
  77. [marcysutton] some weird pixel aliasing maybe? it actually looks better in the screenshot above
  78. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 03 23:41
    [marcysutton] @nathanhammond: that sounds somewhat familiar to the reordering bug I found: https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158120
  79. [marcysutton] Reported in the Angular Github repo as well: angular/angular.js#14677
  80. [marcysutton] Seems like Voiceover just has trouble keeping track of focus in dynamically rendered/watched content