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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 6th of July 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. jkva @jkva works on a11y presentation
  2. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 06 12:13
    If you have a favourite "shitty a11y" image that I can use, let me know šŸ˜
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 12:34
    [michiel] What is it you're looking for?
  4. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 06 12:36
    Just bad examples of accessibility. Like shitty wheelchair ramps
  5. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 06 12:43
    I can find some decent stuff via google image search, but I know there are really nice ones out there
  6. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Jul 06 13:22
    does anyone know if third party services that allow companies to post to multiple social media platforms at once (e.g. HootSuite, etc) let you add alt text for images yet? I know at least Twitter supports alt text now
  7. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Jul 06 13:23
    I doubt there is one
  8. I wonder if the Twitter multi-account app thingy supports alt text yet
  9. Might be a good idea to bring it up to HootSuite, see if they can add support for it
  10. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Jul 06 13:25
    well first I don't know what my current company uses, but figured I'd recommend one if any actually did it right
  11. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Jul 06 13:31
    My work just published a slide to our social media profiles on all the work I've done on the new video player and other upgrades I made that we offer. It mentioned all of the cool stuff, except for the a11y stuff like captions, descriptions, and keyboard controls. That made me sad, and then I realized that whatever we were using likely didn't convert any of the text in that image to alt text and so far I've been right (which surprised me about FB since I thought they had OCR for mostly-text images)
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 13:32
    [michiel] jkva: you can probably steal some from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6wZlTcwGks&index=6&list=PL95LOQw9SLWwWL7TOgTf5m3d6B8FPF56x
  13. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 06 13:36
    THe cheese in that video is glorious
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 13:36
    [michiel] Shotclock cheese?
  15. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Jul 06 14:36
    So I recently tested my memory game ( http://powrsurg.com/work/memory_game/ ) in VoiceOver on iOS and found that it double announcement the buttons as they were revealed, and TalkBack on Android triple announced the cards, and TalkBack double announced the change in the alert. How does that happen?
  16. take that back, it's triple announcing the alert
  17. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Jul 06 14:41
    and thinking about it that may have been the case with VoiceOver (that it was the alert and not buttons)
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 18:45
    [jhausler] is there any research on the cognitive effect of stoke based (hollow) vs filled in icon usage?
  19. [alexlande] I canā€™t speak to the methodology or anything because I didnā€™t read it that closely, but Viget did a study a couple of years ago and found no difference: https://www.viget.com/articles/are-hollow-icons-really-harder-to-recognize-a-research-study
  20. [alexlande] thatā€™s the only research Iā€™m aware of on it
  21. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 18:54
    [jhausler] yes, i saw that one as well. thank you for sharing.
  22. [jhausler] curious if thereā€™s anything geared towards users w cognitive disabilities
  23. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 19:06
    [feather] @jhausler: Canā€™t point to any formal research, but we found about 7 yrs ago on a study that hollow/stroke-based iconography was more easily confused with characters/letters by people with low-vision. Nothing to do with cognitive, mind you, but mentioning it anyway :)
  24. [jhausler] ahh, very interesting. Thanks Derek. Do you have anything published from that study?
  25. [feather] No, it was internal for a client with no permissions to make publicā€¦ I can tell you that it had to do with the shapes that were included in the icons and where they were being displayed. The same icon but on a solid background colour that helped distinguish it from surroundings and letters made a huge difference
  26. [feather] think of the wheelchair iconā€¦ white lines on a blue background
  27. [feather] that then sits on a white background in a content area
  28. [feather] If it were just black lines of the same icon with no background colour, itā€™d be very different
  29. stevefaulkner
    @stevefaulkner
    Jul 06 19:57
    @jkva I like this one http://farm1.static.flickr.com/169/412734816_af9de40b48.jpg
  30. alt="toilet with toilet roll holder a long way from where you s(h)it"
  31. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 06 20:06
    Ah that's brilliant, thanks Steve!
  32. stevefaulkner
    @stevefaulkner
    Jul 06 20:10
    thank codp8 and my memory for bogs
  33. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 06 20:12
    [michiel] Maybe they thought about it, and made sure the floor was brown so any droppings would go unnoticed.
  34. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 06 20:15
    Looking at the difference in floor tiles, prolly where the toilet was supposed to go