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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 27th of July 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 00:08
    [spell] @davidakennedy: Just signed up! Looking forward to them!
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    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 03:35
    [davidakennedy] @spell: Great, thanks for signing up!
  3. Ian Devlin
    @iandevlin
    Jul 27 06:25
    Morning all.
  4. Thanks for the latest newsletter @davidakennedy!
  5. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jul 27 10:21
    anuzzer crappé video background https://www.cloudsuite.com/nl_NL/
  6. I would audio describe it or anything... I would delete it in my dev tools and then finish perusing the page.
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 10:24
    [jakecross] Question in the snippet relating to heading tags: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21124232/
  8. [michiel] jakecross: with the APG we opted to skip the description heading; it should be clear that the introduction paragraph is a description of sorts that describes the preceding heading.
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 10:29
    [michiel] Consecutive headings are also not recommended. Besides extra code, it can cause cognitive issues, and can be a pain for screen reader users.
  10. [jakecross] Could you let me know what the APG is please
  11. [jakecross] Other than that question though, what you've said makes sense. Thanks :)
  12. [michiel] The first h3 in the first part of that paste doesn't add anything really.
  13. [michiel] The APG is the ARIA Authoring Practices Guide: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/
  14. [michiel] For example, if you look at the Alert design pattern, we go straight into the description, no subheading: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#alert
  15. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jul 27 10:37
    Is the whole "use role=document" thing because a tab index has been added?
  16. Because I thought a dialog shouldn't be an application-mode-anything anyway
  17. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 10:39
    [michiel] ?
  18. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jul 27 10:39
    I'm reading the best practices of alerts
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 10:44
    [michiel] Aha, little busy, sorry.
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 10:59
    [jakecross] @michiel: That all makes sense. Thank you.
  21. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Jul 27 12:37
    @dean I want some kind of a demo something of proloque4
  22. or a video of someone using it
  23. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 12:38
  24. [dean] There’s quite a few there - “Getting his message across” is a nice one.
  25. [dean] What’s it for Mallory?
  26. [dean] Oh sorry Proloquo4Text?
  27. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 27 12:40
    Grrr I need to learn how to build great interfaces
  28. Clearly I do not have the innate genetic ability
  29. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 12:41
    [dean] There’s the product video on here: http://assistiveware.com/product/proloquo4text - not sure if we have any user videos
  30. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 27 12:41
    I need to go climb a mountain somewhere to find myself, after which I will return a master at interface design
  31. @dean that product video is lovely
  32. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 12:44
    [dean] Yeah the video guy does really nice work.
  33. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 12:50
    [dean] What’s your problem with UI Job?
  34. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 27 12:51
    @dean Just inexperienced
  35. I know what I want, but I don't know how to make a design work with content
  36. I'd love to be able to do that
  37. [dean] then check out sites that show UI patterns, eg - http://ui-patterns.com/
  38. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Jul 27 12:53
    Sweet it's on Safari
  39. Thanks @dean. Mostly I know it's not something you just learn by reading books. But knowing the basics helps. I just need to practice.
  40. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 18:38
    [alice] ARIA question: does anyone know where to find the 1.1 version of https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-implementation/ ?
  41. [alice] oh here we go: https://www.w3.org/TR/core-aam-1.1/
  42. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 22:24
    [michiel] thumbsup emoji:skin-tone-2:
  43. [michiel] jakecross: no problem at all :)
  44. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jul 27 23:03
    [michiel] bmeunier: breadcrumb design pattern: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#breadcrumb
  45. [michiel] (awaiting review)