@caesar thanks, though that stuff is definitely good, and should go towards a general purpose guideline, I think those are overkill for what I was looking for. Great for reference though.
[jiatyan]@powrsurg that seems like a lot for someone who is just creating a course, to know how to use screen readers, fiddle with the high contrast modes, and check for labels on forms.
Well, the amount of forms they should deal with is incredibly low. I wasn't sure they ever did it but thought it was worth including if so. The contrast stuff I feel they are likely to not touch, but it's something they need to be made aware of.
We're a Windows shop and don't have a JAWS license so I expect them to just test in NVDA. Testing in screen readers is definitely something I think they need to get used to
right, we use Storyline which is where I saw it creating a ton of frames the other day.
[jiatyan] Ahh, if it is Storyline, then watch for the order of tabbing. Sometimes it's crazy to have to tab through 15 items to get to the next slide button.
yeah, I think they're aware of that but I'm not sure. I've heard times where a user ends up tabbing to each individual layer. Things they shouldn't actually tab to
And I never saw a default language being applied to the documents
[jiatyan] And the left column tab panels are inaccessible, and so the table of content doesn't work, links and arrow-scrolling also don't work, and so sticking resource links and transcript in the left panels are useless.
[jiatyan] yes, they have to define the tab order. It's technically WCAG compliant, but it has the same effect as a long menu that someone has to tab through to get to the meat.
[jiatyan] I've never used the authoring environment, but from the output, I guessed that it kind of works like PowerPoint, the default tab order is in sequence the content is added.
Yeah, I was just creating a checklist of general a11y stuff to discuss in a meeting eventually. I figured stuff like that would be talked about during the tabbing order discussion.
[garcialo] I think it’s under Mouse Settings…I have all of mine unchecked…but with default settings you will run into problems if you try copy/pasting from the Speech Viewer
[joe-watkins]@powrsurg FYI JAWS doesn’t require a license for testing.. they let you use it for 40 minutes.. which works for many testing scenarios. http://webaim.org/articles/jaws/#getting
So our new dev was testing out our new checkbox replacement (checkboxes are hidden and an image is over them). We noticed that NVDA in Chrome wasn't reading off a change in checked state if a person actually clicks on the label. The state does change in the DOM. It does get announced if you use a keyboard (which is what one imagine a screen reader user would be using). Should this be expected?
[caesar] Re: JAWS 40-minute mode, besides being monumentally annoying to have to reboot every time, it's not permitted to be used for an extended amount of time, right? (Although policing of it is impractical)
Gitter Channel Archive 24th of August 2016
