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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 30th of August 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Aug 30 09:07
    The group I know on Twitter hate MathML. The only thing they find accessible for anything more than simple Algebra is LaTeX.
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 12:18
    [michiel] Morning y'all!
  3. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Aug 30 12:21
    Morning!
  4. jkva @jkva grumbles something about time
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 12:26
    [michiel] Fine…
  6. [michiel] Afternoon all!
  7. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Aug 30 12:34
    Good afternoon Michiel!
  8. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Aug 30 12:35
    Afternoon, some!
  9. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Aug 30 12:35
    Good localtime() all!
  10. Fiona Holder
    @FionaHolder
    Aug 30 12:36
    appropriateGreeting()
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 12:38
    [michiel] Yeah, it's good we got inappropriateGreeting() out of the system.
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 16:08
    [jiatyan] @StommePoes any idea why MathML is not accessible for them?
  13. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 16:25
    [michiel] Because implementation of MathML is crap.
  14. [michiel] https://www.peterkrautzberger.org/0187/
  15. [michiel] Follow up: https://www.peterkrautzberger.org/0188/
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 16:38
    [michiel] Does anyone have a good resource that explains site maps / index'
  17. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Aug 30 16:54
    How do you mean?
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 17:01
    [michiel] Like, general guidance on how to make one.
  19. [michiel] Say you need to educate someone that has never heard of them.
  20. [car] @robdodson You can try posting your question on the Blindmath mailing list. It's pretty active. http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org
  21. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 17:09
    [jiatyan] Thanks, @michiel . Didn't know that. I'm in education, so I guess I have more exposure to it. We come across a lot of awkward stuff in education. ;)
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 17:19
    [michiel] thumbsup emoji
  23. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 17:25
    [marcysutton] I haven't seen anyone talk about site maps for a long while...I read that as source maps
  24. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 17:36
    [robdodson] @car thanks!
  25. eagsalazar
    @eagsalazar
    Aug 30 23:01
    What does everyone think about the accessibility of the search feature here: http://www.shell.us/? We're looking at doing something very similar but in this particular implementation I wasn't able to see how this would work with screen readers since search is hidden by default and the search icon isn't indicating in any way that it is for search. Are there examples of where this is handled differently or better? Would role="search" plus offscreen rendering be a good approach?
  26. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 23:06
    [caesar] Why do you say "the search icon isn't indicating in any way that it is for search"? It has aria-label="Search" and aria-controls="Search-box"?
  27. [caesar] Or isn't that working in AT?
  28. [caesar] At a cursory glance it doesn't seem too bad. At least they've tried...? Hehe
  29. [caesar] It's better than this one: https://www.electranet.com.au/
  30. eagsalazar
    @eagsalazar
    Aug 30 23:16
    Ah yes I totally missed that on the search icon. I was looking on the search box itself that appears after clicking the search icon
  31. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 23:19
    [cordelia] I kind of would like my focus to move directly into the search input box as soon as I press the search Link.
  32. [cordelia] saves an extra key press
  33. [cordelia] But otherwise I like their search. Really large and easy to find on the page.
  34. eagsalazar
    @eagsalazar
    Aug 30 23:22
    good point. How does their approach compare to role="search" on the search form and offscreen rendering? And then for the icon itself aria-hidden="true"?
  35. so for screen readers it just is always there?
  36. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 23:23
    [caesar] Usually that kinda thing messes with keyboard-only operation
  37. [caesar] The offscreen elements receive focus and the cursor "disappears" from view temporarily
  38. eagsalazar
    @eagsalazar
    Aug 30 23:24
    ok, thanks for the feedback
  39. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Aug 30 23:26
    [caesar] np!