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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 5th of September 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 04:44
    [caesar] If anybody's online... when you have a combined login and register page, and the sections are placed left /right, is that against 1.3.1 because the info on the right hand side might not be perceived?
  2. [caesar] (At least not until the user gets through the left hand side)
  3. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Sep 05 04:46
    I probably wouldn't say that's an issue.
  4. I would say the title should make it clear it's not just a sign in page
  5. And you probably have headings for each section
  6. And perhaps fieldsets to avoid having multiple fields with the same label
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 04:55
    [caesar] Ah, I hadn't thought of it like that. Thanks!
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 10:00
    [david_caldwell] Anyone got any experience of designing and rolling out mass training/learning for accessibility ?
  9. [david_caldwell] Designing a programme at the minute but keen to leverage others experiences
  10. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 11:39
    [michiel] karlgroves / alice / robdodson, to name a few.
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 11:58
    [david_caldwell] Awesome cheers michiel
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 12:44
    [michiel] thumbsup emoji
  13. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 13:29
    https://twitter.com/typeform/status/772754222286827520 I wonder if Typeform realises that this comes across as "We know, but we don't care enough."
  14. For a product that focuses around user input, I would expect them to care more.
  15. stevefaulkner
    @stevefaulkner
    Sep 05 13:32
    @jkva whiner
  16. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 13:33
    sorry
  17. stevefaulkner
    @stevefaulkner
    Sep 05 13:34
    typeform are busy making $$$
  18. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 13:35
    How could I forget
  19. They may be rich, I still call it Poorform when I see it
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 13:37
    [michiel] Karl and I already suggested giving us $1 million each to solve all their a11y issues.
  21. [michiel] Didn't get a reply from them yet.
  22. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 13:38
    lol
  23. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 13:39
    [michiel] They just had an investment round earning 32 million or something crazy.
  24. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 13:40
    Lord
  25. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Sep 05 13:44
    "We know black people are important, but we don't currently have any plans of letting them fill out our super-awesome forms. We're busy making them more awesome first. Maybe some crazy animations using WebGL or something..."
  26. Fiona Holder
    @FionaHolder
    Sep 05 13:50
    It does suck, but I sort of would rather the honesty of this response rather than the usual "oh it's a huge priority and coming soon!" where soon means it's at the bottom of their priority list
  27. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 13:50
    [michiel] “We know text input on forms is important, but we don't currently have any plans on making that happen. We want to make the most awesome looking forms, it's art really.”
  28. [michiel] art 1 |ɑːt|
  29. [michiel] noun
    [michiel] 1 [ mass noun ] the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power:
  30. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 13:52
    "Look at this beautiful car! Isn't it gorgeous!"
  31. "...I can't reach the pedals."
  32. "YES BUT IT IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL CAR"
  33. Sorry Michiel
  34. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 14:00
    [michiel] Haha
  35. [michiel] Sorry jkva
  36. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 14:20
    :D
  37. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 14:50
    [david_caldwell] Nice example of how not to engage through Social Media !
  38. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 15:06
    [michiel] Yeah, jkva can be really harsh sometimes. Those poor people over at Typeform.
  39. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 05 15:07
    :(
  40. I'm sorry, I just get this red mist in front of my eyes
  41. I just turn into a11y hulk. Can't be helped.
  42. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 15:25
    [david_caldwell] I think it's just right - such a shame that both Type form and the 'volunteers' couldn't see the wood for the trees....
  43. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 18:40
  44. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 05 22:39
    [cyberthread] @david_caldwell I teach accessibility as part of a course and set up the classroom so that it is a series of different stations/modules that participants move through. Most of the training I do starts with empathy exercises followed by practical application. It is not perfect, but it works well. I usually have 20 people, so perhaps not “mass” in the way you are thinking...