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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 16th of September 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 00:22
    [michiel] In VoiceOver you can navigate out of and past a list.
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 03:34
    [car] @caesar APG = WAI-ARIA Authoring Practices Guide. It's in the first sentence of the Intro: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#intro
  3. [caesar] Thanks
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 03:41
    [caesar] So what can folks like me do to help?
  5. [caesar] Maybe will just wait for Michiel's presentation :)
  6. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 03:52
    [car] Until that's posted, here's some things you can do:
    Read the doc: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/
    Add issues when you see them: https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues
    Maybe even fork the repo and submit some pull requests: https://help.github.com/articles/fork-a-repo/
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 08:30
    [fionaholder] I was attempting to kick start the Stack Overflow accessibility documentation, but not really getting anywhere as it seems to require approval by a few others and nobodys looking right now
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 11:14
    [michiel] caesar, you can file issues, code examples of widgets in the guide, tell us about ideas, comment on keyboard support stuff, stalk me on here, suggest new patterns, uhm, something else?
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 12:07
    [simong] Does anyone know of a service/company who can assist in detecting seizure inducing pictures/video clips?
  10. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 16 12:09
    simong: I don't, but that's a very interesting question nonetheless
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 12:14
    [simong] We’re building some tooling to detect flashes in animated gifs and scenes and we’re getting some reasonable results, but also some things that seem fairly harmless
  12. [simong] It’d be good to run some of those potential false positives by an expert and get some guidance on how to deal with those
  13. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Sep 16 13:21
    @simong have you seen PEAT?
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 13:28
    [simong] @garcialo are you referencing peatworks.org?
  15. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 14:04
    [garcialo] http://trace.wisc.edu/peat/
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 14:37
    [simong] Thank you @garcialo! That’s going to be super helpful
  17. [garcialo] Awesome. :)
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 16:35
    [chris.alatorre] does the best practice of Providing a non-animated equivalent or method to step through animation include opacity transitions?
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 16:54
    [jhausler] @simong i wonder if someone at teh BBC can help with that. I’ve seen warnings on videos of press conferences with lots of photo flashes. Before you click the play button, there’s an advisory message about the flashing. Not sure if htey automate this, or if it’s manually added.
  20. [simong] @jhausler that sounds like a good lead, do you know anyone there I could get in touch with?
  21. [jhausler] i do not, sorry. there was a lady from the BBC who gave a few talks at CSUN last March. Maybe do a search on the schedule site?
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 17:08
    [marcysutton] That was Emma Pratt Richens https://twitter.com/EmmaJ_PR
  23. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Sep 16 17:47
    @chris.alatorre my understanding was that the practice was geared towards animations with motion specifically
  24. Andrew
    @apulley
    Sep 16 18:11
    what's the current best way to hide the legend element visually?
  25. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 19:05
    [pstonier] so, is 508 refresh going to essentially be the same as WCAG 2? @karlgroves
  26. [karlgroves] @pstonier They will “Incorporate by Reference” - IOW they point to WCAG and say “use this"
  27. [pstonier] ah
  28. [pstonier] so, essentially it won’t match completely, but they’ll pick parts from it?
  29. [karlgroves] No. They’re saying “Use WCAG"

  30. [karlgroves] See:
    https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-ict-refresh/proposed-rule/text-of-the-proposed-rule

    E102.1 and E102.9

  31. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 19:11
    [karlgroves] E205.4; E207.2 and other places refer to WCAG as well
  32. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 19:17

    [karlgroves] One of the things to keep in mind about 508 is that its purpose is to describe the US Federal Government’s approach toward eliminating discrimination against PWDs in the procurement and deployment of ICT.

    IOW it defines how to buy ICT that is accessible and defines what standards are used to define what “accessible” means.

    Incorporating by Reference allows them to point to existing independently developed standards, rather than defining their own standards.

  33. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 16 19:25
    [pstonier] thanks!