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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 21st of September 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 00:11
    [cordelia] I believe aria-expanded should be used on tab panels when it’s possible for multiple tabs to be selected at once. Check out the ARIA spec: http://w3c.github.io/aria/aria/aria.html#tab
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 02:00
    [michiel] caesar and thierryk will check in the morning.
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 02:49
    [nschonni] is my VO skills really bad, or is the macOS upgrade screen not very well coded a11y-wise
  4. [nschonni] *the upgrade screen inside the app store
  5. [nschonni] the colour contrast on the download progress was unreadable, but turning on VO didn't help that much
  6. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 21 08:56
    Talking about a11y in a bit. Only ±30 people at this conference, still slightly nervous =)
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 09:01
    [michiel] Good luck jkva :)
  8. Job van Achterberg
    @jkva
    Sep 21 09:31
    Thanks @michiel :)
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 10:12
    [dean] /giphy you’re number one
    you're number one
  10. [dean] rubbish giphy, but 'you got this!'
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 16:17
    [heidi] Looking for suggestions for an accessible AMS solution (association management software / membership software).
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 17:02
    [karlgroves] Heidi - may want to ask IAAP. I recall being part of a hit squad that beat up their vendor to make the software more accessible.
  13. [heidi] :) cheers karl!
  14. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Sep 21 21:47
    wait, we have hit squads that can make vendors do the right thing?
  15. We just got a vendor who charged 8k for "accesisble" powerpoints plus $2-per-slide for checking that it "works in JAWS"
  16. could def use some muscle. Cousins named Vinny and Joey. Offers they can't refuse, etc.
  17. JP DeVries
    @jpdevries
    Sep 21 21:56
    Wow. That's almost as bad as crowdfunding $50,000 with the promise to make fundamentally inaccessible software accessible and then not delivering after you finally realize it isn't possible without much needed breaking changes
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 22:01
    [karlgroves] @jpdevries Who did that? That sounds like a fun story
  19. JP DeVries
    @jpdevries
    Sep 21 22:02

    @zakim-robot https://a11y.modx.com

    Not sure if you’ve used MODX. The interface is all in ExtJS 3

  20. it is a nightmare. Isn’t even mobile, touch, or keyboard friendly. Far from screen reader. I’ve been working on some proof of concepts for what the manager interface could be like if rebuilt with progressive enhancement bc I think that is the way to go
  21. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 22:07

    [karlgroves] Wow. I heard about that effort. I thought that was a done deal.

    The interface is all in ExtJS 3

    Well then, its never gonna be accessible. But for $50k, I could rewrite the whole fucking thing and have money left over to take the kids to Disney

  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 22:20
    [jpdevries] Depends on how you define done lol
  23. [jpdevries] if you look on GitHub it is an opt-in theme (so not the core) that just sprinkles a bunch of stuff with ARIA and changes the styles to better suite the visually impaired, but it doesn’t address
    • anything in the core
    • a ton of other stuff (responsive, progressive, touch)
  24. [jpdevries] IMO a11y settings should be a system level setting that any theme can tap into, not something you have to install a separate theme just to use
  25. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 21 22:28
    [karlgroves] >- anything in the core
    lots of times this is the real cause. Was the cause of Sharepoint issues forever