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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 27th of September 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 03:05
    [caesar] Quick one for anybody still up: what's the current thinking on text resize and zoom?
  2. [caesar] I think the last position I heard was that browsers and their native zoom were generally OK, but not quite ideal due to the potential for causing horizontal scrolling.
  3. [caesar] Therefore text resize still had to be retained
  4. dothedesign
    @dothedesign
    Sep 27 12:35
    anyone want to help me figure out a header issue where the h1 isn't displaying properly?
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 14:02
    [car] @stommepoes when you did the old .switch input {opacity:0;} trick to hide a checkbox, were you able to get the focus indicator working?
  6. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 14:11
    [conley] @caesar are we talking about OS-level text zoom or page zoom (ctrl +/-)?
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 18:34
    [bmeunier] Do you know a company like UserTesting.com who can do quick sanity check with people with disabilities?
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 18:41
    [jiatyan] @bmeunier Loop11
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 18:50
    [bmeunier] Can they recruit people with disabilities? @jiatyan ?
  10. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 19:25
    [jiatyan] @bmeunier Yes. Disclaimer: I have not personally used them, but I had filed their name away because it is the only usability testing company which specifically recruits people with disability to do testing. http://www.loop11.com/can-people-with-disabilities-use-your-website/
  11. [jiatyan] If you do use them, please let us know how it turns out :)
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 19:33
    [bmeunier] I’m using them next week.
  13. [bmeunier] Thank you @jiatyan
  14. Mark Sadecki
    @cptvitamin
    Sep 27 20:13
    has anyone else here noticed a major difference in the way Voiceover navigates landmarks, regions, and groups recently?
  15. I thought I was going crazy when co-worker and I were getting completely different experiences, but then we started compairing our VO configurations and noticed that we were using different versions. She had 6 and I had 7 and there is now a new setting in VO utility called Grouping Behavior under Navigation.
  16. I do not get prompted to VO+Shift+downarrow to enter regions now.
  17. I can just browse through everything in the DOM, just like I can in JAWS or NVDA. Regions are announced, but no extra effort is required to consume their content (which I prefer). However, I’m now looking for a way to browse by regions on demand.
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 21:45
    [scottohara] I've noticed some very strange inconsistencies with versions of voice over, so you're not alone there cptvitamin
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 22:10

    [chris__pearce] Hi, if a text input or select has a validation error we can link the control to the error message via aria-describedby e.g.

    ```<label for="input-1">Label</label>

    <input type="email" aria-describedby="error-1" id="input-1" />

    <div id="error-1">Please enter a valid email address</div> 

     Does this pattern apply to a group of radio buttons i.e. do we put `aria-describedby` on each radio button e.g.  ```<label for="input-1">Label</label> <input type="radio" name="group" aria-describedby="error-1" id="input-1" /> <label for="input-2">Label</label> <input type="radio" name="group" aria-describedby="error-1" id="input-2" /> <label for="input-3">Label</label> <input type="radio" name="group" aria-describedby="error-1" id="input-3" /> <div id="error-1">Please choose at least one option</div>
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 27 23:05
    [caesar] @conley The browser/page level text resize using ctrl and +/-