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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 14th of October 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 00:38
    [spell] Thanks, @garcialo! Yeah, I just started using it a few weeks ago. Very useful!
  2. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 02:14
    @caesar moving focus to something with a widget role?
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 03:17
    [caesar] @jnurthen Had a chat with the devs. Apparently the whole page is a form or something... an AngularJS thing, supposedly.
  4. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 03:18
    Ugh. They didn't put role application on it did they?
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 03:19
    [caesar] They talked a lot about roles, but I don't think it was "application". They did specifically mention forms.
  6. seanus1138
    @seanus1138
    Oct 14 05:47
    can anyone here confirm if aXe tests links for acceptable hover/focus states? It doesnt seem to do it but it looks like there is a test set up for it?? When I run the test on a link that should fail it doesnt throw a violation.
  7. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Oct 14 13:40
    https://medium.com/samsung-internet-dev/making-vr-fast-and-for-everyone-what-we-can-learn-from-the-web-da4111a572b6#.4pejvoqf0
  8. That is the first article I've seen where a major player in the VR world actually brings up accessibility in terms of VR
  9. I'm not sure I agree that Speech Recognition and Speech Synthesis are the only avenues for things
  10. stevefaulkner
    @stevefaulkner
    Oct 14 14:24
    @pkra @sideshowbarker at the W3C had some specific questions about mathml/mathjax/latex which he asked me, you immediately came to mind as having much better knowledge about these things than myself, is it possible for you to take a look at the questions?
  11. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Oct 14 14:26
    @stevefaulkner sure
  12. stevefaulkner
    @stevefaulkner
    Oct 14 14:26
    @sideshowbarker ^^ :-)
  13. thanks @pkra mike will be in touch
  14. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Oct 14 14:29
    anytime.
  15. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Oct 14 14:51
    @seanus1138 Maybe post something over in https://gitter.im/dequelabs/axe-core?
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 18:13
    [marcysutton] Happy friday Slackers (coffee emoji)
  17. [marcysutton] ooh do i hear an axe-core question?
  18. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 18:17
    ok - can anyone spot anything correct on this site - http://www.reginfo.gov/public/jsp/EO/eoDashboard.jsp
  19. it is like an accessibility errors master class
  20. Marcy Sutton
    @marcysutton
    Oct 14 18:18

    can anyone here confirm if aXe tests links for acceptable hover/focus states?

    No but we can certainly add something. We actually discussed testing for focus states this week, @WilcoFiers had some ideas for how it could be done. @seanus1138 can you file an issue on Github with some sample code? Thank you so much :)
    https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core/issues

  21. We also welcome pull requests!
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 18:41
    [michiel] jnurthen: “You need Adobe Flash Player 8 (or above) to view the charts. It is a free and lightweight installation from Adobe.com. Please click on Ok to install the same.”
  23. [michiel] Nicwe
  24. [michiel] Nice
  25. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Oct 14 18:42
    I love the same
  26. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 18:43
    my favourite thing is the contents of the accessibility links
  27. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 18:43
    [michiel] You can apparently install it quite easily.
  28. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 18:43
    well - apart from the alt text on the spacer and the vertical spacer... it is important to be able to distinguish them
  29. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 18:44
    [garcialo] at least they use buttons to dismiss their feedback modals
  30. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 18:45
    the alt text on the radio buttons is a nice touch too
  31. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 18:45
    [garcialo] what if they fail to display; how would you know?!
  32. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 18:46
    i knew there had to be a reason for it ;)
  33. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 19:41
    [michiel] jnurthen: I just fixed all indenting for the APG; so please don’t mess it up again :smiling_imp:
  34. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 19:42
    what did you fix it to?
  35. 4 i hope :)
  36. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 19:42
    [michiel] To the editorconfig
  37. [michiel] …
  38. [michiel] 2.
  39. [michiel] As you full well know we discussed in Lisbon :P
  40. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 19:42
    i have editorconfig set up so it can't be me :)
  41. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 19:43
    [michiel] I’m just pulling your leg.
  42. [michiel] What else am I supposed to do on a two hour bus ride -.-
  43. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 19:43
    I thought we all stated we liked 4 better though (seriously)
  44. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 19:44
    [michiel] no, you, jessebeach, and mck, all agreed upon 2 spaces.
  45. [michiel] And I’m not changing it again.
  46. [michiel] Next time we should get a scribe for hallway conversations :P
  47. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 19:45
    LOL
  48. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 19:45
    [michiel] Matt’s reasoning was that it was easier to divide by 2, than it was 4.
  49. [michiel] Oh, btw, I also extracted all respec config stuff into a js file.
  50. [michiel] So content now starts at line 15 instead of 175 :)
  51. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 19:47
    nice
  52. that is a good change
  53. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 19:48
    [michiel] thumbsup emoji
  54. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 21:25
    [jessebeach] @michiel @jamesn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsoOG6ZeyUI "I tried to take 8 steps at a time to prove a point..."
  55. [jessebeach] Is anyone else using the jsx-a11y eslint plugin?
  56. [jessebeach] So far, seems very well done. I'm doing some analysis of our codebase over time to see how errors with the rules increases over time
  57. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 21:34
    @jessebeach I love that episode
  58. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 21:38
    [michiel] jessebeach: :see_no_evil:
  59. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 22:04
    [michiel] The only thing that irritates me is that she uses the space bar instead of tab key :/
  60. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 14 22:14
    [stephenwyattbush] Is there a good tool for evaluating the level of compliance a website has with an a11y standard, such as WCAG AA? It would be very helpful to be able to quantify the level of compliance my website currently has, to quantify improvements over time. Something similar to the Lighthouse tool for measuring and improving web performance
  61. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Oct 14 22:15
    there are plenty of tools but the problem is that only a small amount of WCAG can be automatically tested
  62. so you could look for a level of non-compliance (for those parts that can be automatically tested) but you will never get to a level of compliance
  63. ....also I owe you an email - I've been super busy with our internal accessibility conference but that finished yesterday so I have a few cycles now