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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 4th of November 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Nov 04 05:26
    How's everyones' evening going?
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 10:18
    [marcozehe] Hi! Anyone know off-hand who I can contact if changing my e-mail address for this channel gives me an error "This e-mail address is being used by a different account" error message? The e-mail address i want to change to is definitely mine. ;)
  3. [marcozehe] This is on Slack, BTW, not Gitter.
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 11:03
    [michiel] marcozehe: here is a link to Slack's contact page: https://slack.com/help/contact
  5. [michiel] Would guess that's your best bet.
  6. [marcozehe] @michiel: thanks, will try that later.
  7. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 11:12
    Hi, slackers! Do you feel the chrome a11y dev tools extensions is reliable/useful?
  8. In particular, the accessibility properties.
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 11:15

    [karlgroves] @pkra I like it. I don’t really use it often, but I’m prob. not the target user. When I do use it, it is mostly for color contrast.

    When we do training for clients at TPG, we do show it to the attendees and specifically show the accessibility properties to them.

  10. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 11:16
    Thanks @karlgroves -- the training scenario is a big part of my motivation as well actually :)
  11. but also just noticed that role=presentation acts like aria-hidden so I was wondering.
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 11:17
    [karlgroves] How so?
  13. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 11:19
    GoogleChrome/accessibility-developer-tools#313
  14. I thought role=presentation should not hide content, just the mapping of the element itself. Am I wrong?
  15. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 11:20
    [michiel] No that is correct.
  16. [karlgroves] Ahhh
    Good find.
  17. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 11:20
    Cool.
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 11:20
    [karlgroves] role=presentation just strips the native semantics. It doesn’t remove content
  19. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 11:20
    Confused the heck out of me when I couldn't find any content because something high-up had role=presentation :(
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 11:21
    [michiel] (as in it should only strip semantic role thingy)
  21. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 11:21
    thanks karlgroves, michiel.
  22. that's what I thought.
  23. I was reasonably sure since James Teh had hammered that into me in some conversation a while ago.
  24. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 12:47
    [jv] https://html-attributes-reference-10kapart2016.azurewebsites.net/
  25. [jv] https://wai-aria-cheatsheet-10kapart2016.azurewebsites.net/
  26. Peter Krautzberger
    @pkra
    Nov 04 13:18
    thanks jv.
  27. that's sweet!
  28. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Nov 04 13:48
    I never knew about role=timer
  29. Why is it a live region with a value of off? Because it would read off the time too often?
  30. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Nov 04 17:41
    @jnurthen Made some more oatmeal in rice cooker; also forgot the salt again. :worried:
  31. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 18:59
    [somelaniesaid] hi friends! I don't see an intro channel so I thought I'd say hi. I'm Melanie Richards, web designer/front-ender on the Microsoft Edge platform team. Found this slack via @marcysutton's a11y resources :]
  32. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Nov 04 19:00
    welcome @somelaniesaid. Good to have you :smile:
  33. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 19:01
    [chrisjonesish] hi y'all :wave: @somelaniesaid pointed me to this slack! I'm a product designer at Rover.com (dog emoji)
  34. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Nov 04 19:01
    :wave:
  35. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 19:02
    [michiel] Hiya :)
  36. luis garcia
    @garcialo
    Nov 04 20:05
    Hi...ya -kung fu @michiel
  37. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 20:25
    [marcysutton] Hi @somelaniesaid!! Awesome to have you here :)
  38. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 20:56
    [michiel] <div role=belt style="color: black">
  39. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 21:12
    [marcysutton] hello and happy friday from Canadian airspace. En route to Accessibility Camp Toronto. Any other slackers going?
  40. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 21:43
    [michiel] I think billygregory is going ;)
  41. [marcysutton] And Karl!
  42. [michiel] I think a couple TPGers are going, but not sure who.
  43. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 22:00
    [marcysutton] I am laughing at myself that I thought a live coding talk would lighten my workload. Hahahaha
  44. [karlgroves] HA
  45. [marcysutton] I've seen some really questionable code in the wild, it's been enlightening. My JavaScript skills are a lot better than I thought they were
  46. [marcysutton] And I stumbled upon a nice mega-menu https://a11ywins.tumblr.com/post/152691943913/cbc-mega-menu
  47. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Nov 04 22:47
    [scottohara] Good luck with the talk, Marcy