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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 28th of February 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. Jonathan Neal
    @jonathantneal
    Feb 28 04:08
    When marking up a list of posts, where each item in the list contains only an abstract of the post it is linking to; is it more helpful for those posts to be exposed as sections with headings, or as list items, or as something else?
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 04:16
    [caesar] I think this is the function of the <article> tag?
  3. [caesar] https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_HTML5_article_element
  4. Jonathan Neal
    @jonathantneal
    Feb 28 04:28
    @caesar, it says <article> is used to outline a self-contained composition ... if required for example for syndication purposes. That would indicate, to me, that it’s only for the full article, not for a excerpt. Maybe I’m missing the evidence. How did you find this to work for links to articles with excerpts?
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 04:32
    [caesar] As with most HTML5 stuff, it's just a matter of how familiar end users are with using them in their AT of choice. It just provides the semantics, nothing more.
  6. [caesar] Here's a good discussion of using <article>: http://alexbondarev.com/on-articles-and-excerpts/
  7. Jonathan Neal
    @jonathantneal
    Feb 28 13:37
    Thanks for that :D
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 15:28
    [alandunning] Sorry yes, lucas
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 22:01
    [reridley] Hi guys. I am looking into the accessibility of responsive table jquery plugins for a project. The feature that the designer wants would create just 1 level of nested table. I appreciate that it is better to keep tables as simple as possible so I wondered should any level of nested tables be totally avoided?
  10. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 22:35
    [herin] @reridley : Check this out. https://datatables.net/. They have a demo table in the home page and you can check with chrome emulator. It's quite accessible too
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 22:49
    [reridley] thanks @herin. It was a particular feature of collapsible columns from this plugin http://fooplugins.github.io/FooTable/docs/examples/basic/hiding-columns.html but it does create 1 level of nested tables to achieve this.
  12. [reridley] So I guess I am asking whether any level of nested tables are an annoyance to screen reader users
  13. [herin] @reridley : Yes, Kind of... when the table row is expanded how we relate the header row to the expanded row is important
  14. [herin] The foo plugin you have shared related the header row First name to the DOB. Hence the screen reader user will hear First name DOB
  15. [herin] Check this article ... https://sitesforprofit.com/responsive-table-plugins-and-patterns
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 22:55
    [herin] You may find something interesting
  17. [reridley] thanks for the feedback. That link is where the designer got the example from :) I will have a look through the options.
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 28 23:18
    [herin] Thats great. It is a fantastic article.