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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 10th of April 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 06:34
    [sri429] does freedom scientific publish their bugs on jaws somewhere? Off late i am observing lot of random text being spoken by jaws 18 from different places on the page, even though the focus is not there.
  2. [sri429] want to see if there are any open bugs on thagt
  3. [sri429] that*
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 06:46
    [caesar] Not that I know of, and pretty sure they don't. You report bugs through their support email address, not some kind of website, so it probably goes into some kind of internal software quality management system.
  5. [caesar] http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport
  6. [caesar] But try searching their "Technical Support Bulletins"
  7. [caesar] (Pretty sure your issue isn't mentioned...)
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 11:57
    [hdv] What do people think of using hidden instead of aria-hidden? In my tests it seems that if combined with setting display:none to the attributes, support across browsers and screenreaders is pretty much the same, so using hidden would be the best to option?
  9. [hdv] (following the first rule of ARIA, 'don't use ARIA if there is a native HTML thing for it)
  10. [hdv] I might be missing something though, so would be interested to hear other people's thoughts
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 14:33
    [marcysutton] They have different purposes. Here's a video I recorded on it: https://egghead.io/lessons/html-5-visible-vs-hidden
  12. [marcysutton] [hidden] is more equivalent to display: none by default, while aria-hidden maintains the visual display.
  13. [hdv] ah thanks, Marcy, watching the video now!
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 14:43
    [hdv] I love how you explain all the different ways of making things invisible in the video, very helpful
  15. [hdv] Our biggest challenge was what happens to stuff inside the things we make invisible (and avoiding what you call 'ghost controls')
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 17:27
    [marcysutton] You might want to check out inert: https://github.com/WICG/inert
  17. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 18:09
    [garcialo] Anyone in here running a champions program? At eBay we’re looking to exchange ideas with others doing the same.
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 19:21
    [sethkane] Pasted image at 2017-04-10, 2:21 PM
  19. [sethkane] Pasted image at 2017-04-10, 2:22 PM
  20. [sethkane] Any thoughts?
  21. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 19:33
    [sethkane] Never mind broken headphones #FAIL
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 20:56
    [mattbartist] does anyone have a better “accordian” screen reader experience than this example? http://oaa-accessibility.org/example/37/
  23. James Nurthen
    @jnurthen
    Apr 10 23:29
    http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/accordion/accordion.html
  24. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 23:49
    [garcialo] @jnurthen always looks so happy with his bot face
  25. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 10 23:59
    [caesar] At least it isn't an egg. That would be discriminatory