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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 26th of April 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 00:08
    [michiel] quidkid: VoiceOver by any chance?
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 02:56
    [caesar] Does anybody have an opinion on the "Pagination controls" used in some user interfaces? Most often as the "dots" at the bottom of a carousel: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/UserExperience/Conceptual/UIKitUICatalog/UIPageControl.html
  3. [caesar] When making a page selection, should the focus move, or stay in the pagination control area?
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 08:25
    [tiffy23] @powrsurg I'd use an ARIA Live Region for that!
    Two resources with info: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/ARIA/ARIA_Live_Regions
    https://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2014/03/screen-reader-support-aria-live-regions/
  5. [tiffy23] @jamesn Thanks for the hint on Full Keyboard Access!
  6. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 11:46
    [deconspray] Are there any color contrast analyzers/checkers for mobile apps?
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 11:54
    [hampelusken] I think this one’s pretty good for apps: https://itunes.apple.com/na/app/color-contrast/id1095478187?mt=8
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 13:06
    [michiel] Hi, to those that’ve read @bkardell’s article on a :role(…) pseudo-class experiment, I’ve written a reply: https://twitter.com/MichielBijl/status/857212101777076224 / https://moiety.me/thinks/cascading-semantic-stylehooks.html
  9. [michiel] If you haven’t read Brian’s post, it’s well worth a read: http://bkardell.com/blog/Reflecting-On-Roles.html
  10. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Apr 26 13:06
    @tiffy23 I thought that role="alert" inherently adds the aria-live="assertive" (or is supposed to, but you should add it yourself for compatibility reasons). We've done that whenever we make notices. I was more concerned with adding said alerts with hidden divs. That feels weird, but it really is only needed for users that cannot visually see the visual cue that the item was saved.
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 13:08
    [michiel] powrsurg: why would you not want the alert to be visible?
  12. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Apr 26 13:11
    We have a save animation that doesn't say anything. I feel like that is enough for a visual user and that text feedback would just get lost in the shuffle. It could be put in any somewhere, but I feel like it's giving them too much feedback at that point.
  13. We were contemplating making the Save button switch to saying "Saving" and then "Saved" during the process, but I thought I had read that there was trouble in getting that information read out to a person right away
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 13:48
    [miwayha] a random question — my voiceover is reading img src attributes even when there is an empty alt attribute present
  15. [miwayha] is that a voiceover setting i’m missing? my images normally just have just alt rather than alt=""
  16. [scottohara] have you tried adding in the alt=“” to test the difference?
    also are you testing with chrome/VO? I think there’s currently a bug open about this exact thing
  17. [miwayha] ahhh it was chrome. thanks so much!
  18. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Apr 26 14:04
    @scottohara https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=710537&q=VoiceOver%20images&colspec=ID%20Pri%20M%20Stars%20ReleaseBlock%20Component%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20OS%20Modified
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 14:05
    [scottohara] thanks!
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 14:35
    [hampelusken] Anyone know of any good disability simulators. For example browser-plugins or apps that simulate vision, motor, cognitive, audio, reading impairments? I’m in a project where we’re going to build an aggregated simulator, so looking for inspiration.
  21. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 16:05
    [cmegown] @hampelusken i've found Spectrum to be quite useful in the past when testing for various kinds of color blindness https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/spectrum/ofclemegkcmilinpcimpjkfhjfgmhieb
  22. [cmegown] full disclosure: i'm not sure how accurate it is, but i figure it's better than not trying at all
  23. Don Richards
    @DonRichards
    Apr 26 16:43
    Does anyone know where I can find the accessibility laws video archives for the government agencies to follow?
  24. Don Richards
    @DonRichards
    Apr 26 16:57
    Kind of a typo. Looking to find what laws for videos archived online...
  25. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 17:02
    [michiel] I would imagine the same laws apply as those for “normal” online videos?
  26. Don Richards
    @DonRichards
    Apr 26 17:02
    Usually more strict.
  27. But either would be a good place to start
  28. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 20:24
    [jiatyan] @hampelusken NoCoffee https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nocoffee/jjeeggmbnhckmgdhmgdckeigabjfbddl?hl=en-US
  29. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Apr 26 22:23
    [seankeegan] @DonRichards I would suggest the revised Section 508 Standards as to what is/is not expected to conform to accessibility requirements. There is an exception for records kept as part of recordkeeping statutes (see https://www.federalregister.gov/d/2017-00395/p-418).
  30. [marcysutton] axe-core 2.2.0 is out! https://www.npmjs.com/package/axe-core
  31. [deconspray] @hampelusken Thanks much!