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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 16th of May 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 11:10
    [melsumner] "I'm pressing my CAPS LOCK key, why is nothing happening? Oh god what is wrong with my keyboard this can't be happening I love my keyboard it's perfect and--oh wait, I still have NVDA running." -me, before coffee.
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 11:35
    [tink] @melsumner (coffee)
  3. [melsumner] :laughing:
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 12:53
    [bethra] I sent an invite to my entire company to come watch me give a presentation for GAAD Thursday. Wish me luck! I'm not normally a great speaker, but I could go on and on about accessibility for hours! I hope I can make it engaging enough for everyone. This is likely the first time many of them will have heard about accessibility.
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 12:59
    [mattbartist] @bethra : good luck… i know the feeling of being able to talk about accessibility for hours and not feeling like you’re a great speaker. i’m sure you’re probably better than me. hope it goes well.
  6. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 13:46
    [bethra] @mattbartist problem is I only have 30 minutes because we have an issue with meeting rooms (I should say shortage) but it'll be a good amount of time for an intro.
  7. [mattbartist] @bethra: yep, hard to cover much in 30 mins., but maybe this would help give you some ideas… https://www.w3.org/WAI/training/presentation-outlines#intro
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 13:53
    [cehfisher] nice avatar @mattbartist
  9. [mattbartist] hehe… thanks @cehfisher ;)
  10. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 14:42
    [bethra] @mattbartist thanks!
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 14:59
    [mattbartist] welcome @matt.vanslyke
  12. [matt.vanslyke] thank ye kindly
  13. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 17:55
    [deconspray] @bethra I am so stoked that you are doing this. Your passion for accessibility will overcome any initial jitters you may have and infect all attendees. Can't wait to hear how it went.=D
  14. [bethra] I just hope I don't have to punch anyone.
  15. [bethra] Hahaha, just kidding.
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 18:13
    [scottohara] dunno…that could make for an engaging experience… :)
  17. [mattbartist] haha… “engaging” or “enraging” experience?
  18. [karlgroves] @bethra Don’t fail! ;)
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 18:43
    [garcialo] @bethra Or if you do fail, make sure to do so gloriously.
  20. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 19:27
    [bethra] @karlgroves @deconspray @garcialo This will be me on Thursday ;P
    https://youtu.be/UCHVrN87pOI
  21. [karlgroves] Literally LOLed
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 20:13
    [jiatyan] Hey developers, how easy is it to fix a burger menu to make it close when focus moves off its sub-menus? e.g. mtomas.com
  23. [jiatyan] It’s not a blocker since the user can navigate back to the burger and close the menu. But it is a pain. But our vendor is moaning that they don’t know how to do it and it’s going to break the upgrade path of the theme. I can’t tell if they’re just being lazy.
  24. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 20:49
    [quidkid] for loading indicators without a %, what would be the appropriate aria tag? aria polite?
  25. [quidkid] or aria-busy?
  26. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 20:56
    [jiatyan] @quidkid busy, I suppose. https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#progressbar
  27. [quidkid] thank you jiatyan!
  28. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 21:03
    [quidkid] @jiatyan and for your question, I would have the focus trapped so you can’t tab past the menu items into the rest of the site.
  29. [quidkid] so if you are on the last item in the menu and you tab, it takes you back to the top
  30. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 21:28
    [jiatyan] @quidkid is it usually easy, as in, add a line or two of code, to trap that focus? Or is it a rewrite?
  31. [jiatyan] (I’m fighting a reluctant vendor :))
  32. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 21:43
    [garcialo] Not sure you’d want to trap keyboard focus inside of a menu. Is that a behavior native menus have?
  33. [jiatyan] no, the native menu turns itself off after focus moves off it.
  34. [jiatyan] example of the theme used: http://mtomas.com/
  35. [jiatyan] Granted the keyboard nav on the submenu function is not the best. Vendor claims this is the most accessible theme they can find given other criteria.
  36. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 22:17
    [garcialo] @jiatyan I’ll send you some links to a couple of patterns we have. Perhaps the vendor would find them useful.
  37. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    May 16 22:29
    [jiatyan] Thanks, Luis. The how-to’s is a lot clearer than blogs I’ve been looking at :). You know how to pick through https://ebay.gitbooks.io/mindpatterns/
  38. [garcialo] @ianmcburnie has done some great work on it. :)