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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 20th of June 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 00:07
    [robdodson] @higley confusingly both polyfills are made by googlers. Alice and I maintain the WICG one
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 00:14
    [alice] I'm interested in why you'd prefer to avoid mutation observers, too (@higley)
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 01:13
    [higley] @alice just for performance. @robdodson nice! I think that one’s winning, currently :)
  4. [alice] @higley Ah - well, you can modify it to not use mutation observers and simply not use the attribute interface
  5. [alice] https://github.com/WICG/inert/blob/master/src/inert.js#L524
  6. [higley] @alice thanks! I’ll try that out.
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 01:18
    [alice] :) We should probably vend a few different flavours tbh
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 15:11
    [tink] This on landmark navigation for people who don't use screen readers: https://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2017/05/improving-access-to-landmark-navigation/
  9. [cameron] hi friends, I noticed this morning that tab focus in Safari has what I feel is unexpected behavior
  10. [cameron] when tab focus reaches the end of a form, focus moves to the address bar
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 15:17
    [cameron] cc @cookiecrook
  12. [cameron] safari focus.gif
  13. [tink] @cameron is the last field of the form the last focusable element on the page?
  14. [cameron] (thinking face emoji)
  15. [cameron] @tink no, it’s not the last focusable element
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 15:23
    [cameron] also worth noting, Chrome works as expected
  17. [tink] That does seem unusual.
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 16:24
    [car] @cameron
    • Regarding focus not going to the last focusable element (the button), do you have the "Full keyboard access" set to "All controls" setting enabled? (see the first minute of Marcy's "Using VoiceOver" video for a demo of enabling Mac/Safari keyboard settings: https://egghead.io/lessons/tools-using-the-voiceover-screen-reader-to-test-for-accessibility)).
    • Regarding focus going to the address bar... Is the form inside a dialog? If so, is the "inert" attribute being used to render elements outside of the dialog "inert"? If true, then this is apparently the way that "inert" works. There was some discussion about it yesterday/today after Rob's "modal dialog" a11ycast came out.
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 17:43
    [cameron] @car thanks for that, I hadn’t enabled tab navigation for all controls!
  20. [cameron] new laptop :)
  21. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 19:26
    [tink] cameron: Will have to disappear from here shortly. Will be online for the AB meeting tomorrow though.
  22. [tink] WTF.
  23. [tink] Oh. Bloody cut/paste. *sigh. I need more meds
  24. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 19:34
    [ghanek] @tink. or some quality tequila, perhaps. :tropical_drink:
  25. [tink] :D
  26. [tink] Tequila is a cold remedy, right?
  27. [ghanek] Similar to Jägermeister. Pretty certain. We could run a user test.
  28. [allenski] tea + a shot of rum + honey + lemon
  29. [tink] I think that would be the sensible thing to do.
  30. [allenski] best remedy
  31. [tink] @allenski if I could switch the rum for whiskey, that'd be a pretty good thing to try.
  32. [allenski] lol give it a try, might work
  33. [tink] (highfive)
  34. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 20:47
    [quidkid] for video.js, for somewhat reason when I use voiceover and keyboard to screen reader test it, it keeps repeating the %age loaded of the video which is super annoying because you can’t hear the video itself. any ideas how to fix it?
  35. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 21:00
    [karlgroves] Izzy, I recommend creating an example case and steps to reproduce and posting it to the video.js github repo. They’re really cool about a11y.
  36. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 21:06
    [marcysutton] @quidkid is the page still loading or the video?
  37. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 21:48
    [quidkid] @marcysutton i thought it was the video because it’s coming from when the video section opens? and i guess it fits the loading bar.
  38. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 22:28
    [quidkid] @marcysutton omg maybe it is the page. i tried pulling my code in a codepen and it doesn’t have that. crap so if it’s the page, what can I do about it?
  39. [quidkid] it is definitely the page i think because even if navigate outside of the video section it’s doing it
  40. [marcysutton] Try to figure out what request(s) are still in flight, or resources are downloading? You should be able to inspect via the Network tab in Chrome
  41. [quidkid] browsersync?
  42. [marcysutton] If it's a third-party resource you don't control, that might be tough to kill. Make sure it isn't caused by a browser extension or something too
  43. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 22:35
    [quidkid] wait maybe it’s because i’m using MAMP? what’s weird is I could’ve sworn I didn’t have this problem before. that’s why i thought it was something with the video section.
  44. [quidkid] no wait its BOTH
  45. [marcysutton] Hard to say, but you should try to identify what is still loading so you can figure out what to do with it
  46. [quidkid] shoot because now im on the video section and that loading thing is going off
  47. [quidkid] and it’s saying a different number so i know it’s referring to the video and not the page
  48. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Jun 20 22:57
    [quidkid] WHEW i think it’s because it was locally hosted. I uploaded it to a dev server and the loading thing doesn’t happen. haha wasted time but at least it’s non-issue
  49. [quidkid] thanks @karlgroves @marcysutton for your time and responses!