Cupertino F2F July 2023
- Host: Apple
- Location: One Apple Park Way, Cupertino CA 95014, USA
- Visitor entrance is at Tantau Reception Center, 10503 North Tantau Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014. This is adjacent to the intersection of North Tantau Avenue and Pruneridge Avenue.
- Conference room is named “Space Oddity” in Section 2
- If you’re driving there, the visitor parking is in an underground garage whose entrance is at this point, adjacent to the Apple Park Visitor Center, 10600 North Tantau Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014. This is just across North Tantau Avenue from the visitor entrance.
- Weather Forecast: ⁰C or ⁰F, Current Weather Conditions: ⁰C or ⁰F
- Dates: Tuesday 18 July - Friday 21 July 2023
- Times: 8am-4pm (early start to accommodate Europe dial-ins)
- 7:30am - reception open for visitors, breakfast available
- 8am - meeting start
- 9:30am-10am morning break
- 12:00pm-1pm lunch break
- 2:00pm-2:30pm afternoon break
- 4pm - meeting end
- Scheduled Extras:
- Lightning Pitches - 1min-5min informal pitches to ask for engagement on particular issues, concerns, or feature requests that aren’t ready for formal discussion
- Wednesday evening - host dinner, 6:30 PM outside on the patio at Water Tower Kitchen: 201 Orchard City Drive, Campbell, CA 95008 https://www.watertowerkitchen.com
- Thursday evening - DIY backyard barbecue, fantasai &co hosting, 10min drive from Apple, extra guests welcome, please come even if you’re local…
- Airports:
- SJC - San Jose Airport (16km drive, closest, be careful to use correct airport code)
- SFO - San Francisco Airport (54km drive, major hub)
- OAK - Oakland Airport (69km drive)
- Dial-in info for virtual attendees
Agenda
https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/projects/38
Meeting Minutes
- Tuesday, July 18
- Wednesday, July 19
- Thursday, July 20
- Friday, July 21
Goals
- Reduce Agenda+ backlog:
- Allow time and space for fuzzier open-ended discussions and breakouts
- Post-pandemic repair of group communication and collaboration (particularly across company boundaries)
Possible breakout topics
- Line-breaking and related features in CSS Text Level 4
- line-clamp, continue: discard, and friends (also listed as a main track topic, but a break-out might be useful for a deep-dive, before bringing back potential conclusions to the main track) (Andreu Botella would like to join remotely. Europe-friendly scheduling appreciated)
- ??? Add Suggestions Here ???
Regular-track topics
In addition to Agenda+ F2F Issues…
- Anchor Positioning
- Masonry?
- CSS Grid Layout L1 fixes (any output from Tab+Oriol+fantasai’s workday on Monday)
- Line-clamp (Andreu Botella would like to join remotely. Europe-friendly scheduling appreciated)
- styling of details elements (see somewhat draft-y document) (could be a lightning pitch, except I think a little discussion would be useful)
- ??? Add topics you want to discuss / present here so the chairs can schedule them ???
- FXTF/Houdini - merging back into CSSWG?
- Future of SVG - WG has been effectively dead for years, should we take it over? Do something else?
Lightning Pitches
1min-5min informal pitches to ask for CSSWG’s attention / help on particular issues, concerns, or feature requests that aren’t ready for formal discussion, see Lightning Pitches Description. Register your name and/or topics below if you want the wiki to help you remember.
- Sebastian Zartner: Advanced transforms
- Yehonatan Daniv: animation-trigger, issue
- Yehonatan Daniv: Expand filter capabilities, reference tweet
- Christopher Cameron: Dynamic range limit for HDR content issue, proposal, slides
- David Baron: focusability of `display: contents`; see mozilla/standards-positions#772 and WebKit/standards-positions#164
- fantasai: counters() nonsense
- Sebastian Zartner: feature testing nesting + avoid double-importing stylesheets
- bramus: `@config`
- fantasai: CSS Grid and CSS Flexbox should not be 3-5 years out of date.
- bramus: Animation Timelines
- bramus: catering for scrollbars – overflow state query + issue + issue
- Sebastian Zartner: cropping in the middle of a string
Attendees
Hosts
Apple attendees who can help visitors with issues they may encounter during the F2F.
IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!
| Name | Arrival | Departure | Hotel | Dietary Restrictions | Flights or Other Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Theresa O’Connor (hober) | local | local | local | ||
| fantasai | early | late | AirBnB | gluten-free appreciated | |
| Tim Nguyen (ntim) | local | local | local | ||
| Megan Gardner | local | local | local | ||
| Jen Simmons | week before | week after | nearby hotel | will get my own food since I cannot eat 99% of foods / can only eat about 12 ingredients | |
| Simon Fraser | local | local | local | ||
| Myles C. Maxfield | local | local | local | ||
| Brandon Stewart | Jul 16 | Jul 22 | nearby hotel | none | |
| Sammy Gill | Jul 17 | Jul 22 | Residence Inn Cupertino | AS 3453, AS 3498 |
IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!
In-Person Participants
When in a U-shape configuration, the room has capacity for 30 people. But the maximum capacity of the room is 160, so we can probably squeeze a few more than 30 in pretty comfortably.
IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!
| Name | Arrival | Departure | Hotel | Dietary Restrictions | Flights or Other Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan | Jul 17 | Jul 21 | Courtyard by Marriot Sunnyvale | Will rent car, can give people rides from the NW direction if needed | |
| Rachel Andrew | Jul 17 | Jul 23 | Homewood Suites Silicon Valley | I made a list. | BA283 + AA4863 - AS2401 + BA282 |
| Oriol Brufau | Jul 15 | Jul 22 | AirBnB | Strong dislike of cheese and shellfish | |
| Bramus | Jul 16 | Jul 26 | Wild Palms Hotel | None | SAS 594+935 - SAS 936+597 |
| Miriam Suzanne | Jul 17 | Jul 22 | AirBnB | vegetarian | |
| Rossen | Jul 18 | Jul 22 | AirBnB | pescatarian | |
| ChangSeok Oh | local | local | local | ||
| Tab Atkins-Bittner | local | local | local | ||
| David Baron | Jul 17 | Jul 21 | Wild Palms Hotel | no red meat | UA 1742 (Mon 15:25 SFO), UA 2046 (Fri 21:35 SFO) |
| Sebastian Zartner | July 17 | July 22 | AirBnB | no shellfish | UA 195 (Mon 14:20 SFO), UA 8882 (Sat 21:10 SFO) |
| Florian Rivoal | July 17 | July 22 | AirBnB | omnivore | KL2084+KL5192 / AF2840+AF0009 |
| Ian Kilpatrick | local | local | local | no shellfish | |
| Cassondra Roberts | Jul 17 | Jul 21 | Element Santa Clara | mostly vegan but flexible w/honey, fish, etc. | Delta into SJC |
| Daniel Holbert | local | local | local | None | Planning to attend in-person for at least one day (not sure yet which day(s)) |
| Nicole Sullivan | local | local | local | ||
| Tantek Çelik | local | local | local | vegan | in-person on 2023-07-20 |
| Emilio Cobos | July 17 | July 22 | AirBnB | omnivore |
IN-PERSON SIGN-UPS ARE NOW CLOSED!!!
Virtual Participants
Dial-in info can be found in the w3c-css-wg archives.
Please list your availability in California time (morning/afternoon/all or specific time ranges). See Time Converter
| Name | Timezone | PDT Availability | Other Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| François Remy | CEST (PDT+9) | 08:00-16:00 | Tuesday for two hours, All the other days until I fall asleep (possibly until EOD, as I’m jetlagged) |
| Yehonatan Daniv | IDT (PDT+10) | 08:00-15:00 | |
| Chris Lilley | EEST (PDT+10) | 08:00-11:00 | unable to travel |
| Lea Verou | EEST (PDT+10) | 9am-11am every day, also 8am-9am on Fri | |
| Vladimir Levin | EDT | 08:00-15:00 | |
| Rob Flack | EDT | 08:00-15:00 | |
| Jonathan Kew | (PDT+8) | 08:00-14:00 | Part-time, depending on schedule of agenda topics |
| Vitor Ribeiro Roriz | CEST | ||
| Cameron McCormack | AEST (PDT+17) | 13:00-17:00 | Will be in and out Tue-Thu afternoons, not available Fri |
| Matthieu Dubet | CEST (PDT+9) | ||
| Khushal Sagar | EDT | 08:00-16:00 | Can attend all day Tuesday + Wednesday. Won’t be able to attend the last 2 days |
| David Leininger | EDT | Double booked for a week long office event in NYC. Will in and out as available. | |
| Mason Freed | PDT | 08:00-16:00 | Very part-time, depending on agenda |
| Fernando Serboncini | EDT | 08:00-16:00 | |
| Federico Bucchi | PDT | 09:00-13:00 | |
| Jennifer Strickland | EDT | all | in and out |
| Una Kravets | EDT | all | in and out |
| Mu-An Chiou | PDT+15 | 08:00-09:00, 15:00-16:00 | timezones |
| Adam Argyle | PDT | all | in and out |
| Delan Azabani | AWST (PDT+15) | 08:00-11:00 | |
| Peter Linss | PDT | 08:00-16:00 | |
| Noam Rosenthal | PDT+10 | 10:00-11:30 | Available Tue-Thu |
| Joey Arhar | PDT | ||
| Stephen Chenney | EDT | 8:00 - 13:00, limited other times | Highlight pseudo issues + others of interest |
| Xiaocheng Hu | PDT | ||
| Alison Maher | PDT | all | Part-time, depending on agenda |
| Andreu Botella | CEST | 08:00-14:00 | Preferably 8:00-12:00 |
| Christopher Cameron | CEST | 12:00-15:00 | in and out |
| Chris Harrelson | PDT | 8:00-16:00 | In and out |
| Greg Whitworth | PDT | 08:00-16:00 | Tooltip & Anchor positioning |
Regrets
| Name |
|---|
| Bobby Jo Steffl |