Paris F2F August 2017
- Host: Mozilla
- Dinner: Thursday 7PM
- Au Petit Riche, 25 rue Le peletier 75009 Paris
- Menu
- Dates: Wednesday-Friday, August 2-4, 2017
- with a Houdini task force meeting at the same location on Tuesday, August 1, 2017
Meeting Minutes
- Wednesday, Aug 2 Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
- Thursday, Aug 3 Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
- Friday, Aug 4 Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
Location
Mozilla Paris, 16bis Boulevard Montmartre, 75009 Paris, France
See Mozilla Paris wiki for important directions on finding and entering the space
Participants
| Name | Arrival | Departure | Hotel | Flight info and notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan Stearns | 28 July | 5 Aug | AirBnB | |
| Benjamin De Cock | 2 Aug | 5 Aug | Millennium Opera Hotel | Thalys |
| Bert | 31 Jul | 4 Aug | Hôtel Joséphine | Train (Gare de Lyon) |
| Brian Birtles | 30 July | 2 Aug | Hôtel Saint-Marc | JL415/416 |
| Daniel Glazman | N/A | N/A | home | N/A |
| Dave Cramer | 1 Aug | 5 Aug | ||
| Dean Jackson | 1 Aug | 4 Aug | Walking, Swimming, Crawling | |
| Emil A Eklund | 1 Aug | 5 Aug | W Opera | TBD |
| Eric Willigers | ||||
| fantasai | 31 July | 6 Aug | AirBnB | |
| Florian Rivoal | AirBnB | Train | ||
| Francois Remy | 31 July | 4 Aug | AirBnB | |
| Geoffrey Sneddon | 31 Jul | 5 Aug | Mercure Paris Opera Louvre | (Probably some Eurostar) |
| Greg Whitworth | ||||
| Ian Kilpatrick | Lundi | Samedi | ??? | Stallion |
| Jack Moffitt | ||||
| Jen Simmons | 31 July | 5 Aug | AirBnb | BA304 (from London) / BA 8003 |
| Jet Villegas | 28 July | 5 Aug | AirBnb | TBD |
| Koji Ishii | 31 July | 5 Aug | TBD | TBD |
| L. David Baron | 28 July | 5 Aug | Hôtel Acadia - Astotel | Eurostar 9032 / UA 984 |
| Melanie Richards | 28 July | 5 Aug | Hotel Athenee | AF3653 / AF3622 |
| Myles C. Maxfield | Eiffel Tower | Submarine | ||
| Naina Raisinghani | ||||
| Peter Linss | 31 July | 5 Aug | AirBnB | Eurostar |
| Rachel Andrew | 30 July | 5 Aug | BA315/BA314 | |
| Rob Flack | 31 July | 8 Aug | Hôtel Flor Rivoli | AC880/AC881 |
| Rossen Atanassov | 1 Aug | 5 Aug | hotel | uber |
| Simon Sapin | home | |||
| Surma | 31 Jul | 5 Aug | Millennium Opera Hotel | BA336/BA335 |
| Tab Atkins | 30 Jul | 5 Aug | AirBnB | FI548/FI549 |
| Tantek Çelik | 2017-08-01 | 2017-08-10 | AirBnB | UA990/UA984 |
| Till Schneidereit |
(alphabetical by given name)
Regrets
- Chris Lilley (no travel funding)
- Lea Verou (speaking in Australia)
- Dael Jackson
- Hiroshi Sakakibara (my first baby will born) 🎁
- Jihye Hong
- Simon Pieters
Observers
| Name | Arrival | Departure | Hotel | Flight info and notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Grogan (Google) | 1 Aug | 4 Aug | ||
| Fred Wang (Igalia) | 1 Aug | 1 Aug | ||
| Sergio Villar Senin (Igalia) | 1 Aug | 1 Aug |
Topics
Wednesday
Morning
- CSS Timing spec (prefer Wednesday)
- Counter Styles Open Issues, if not already covered. https://drafts.csswg.org/css-counter-styles-3/issues-cr-20150611
- Media Queries 4: CR? https://drafts.csswg.org/mediaqueries-4/issues-wd-2016-01-26.html
- Additive CSS (On Wednesday please!) - Brian
- Align issues
Afternoon
- Flexbox Open Issues: https://drafts.csswg.org/css-flexbox/issues-cr-20160526
- selectors4 publication and review of dbaron’s recent edit to API hooks (see email)
- [selectors] propagation of the :focus pseudo https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1240
- focus-ring
- standardising as written https://wicg.github.io/focus-ring/spec/focusring.html
- Open questions:
- whether to (heuristically) match on any keyboard event, or only on tab/shift-tab https://github.com/WICG/focus-ring/issues/33
- how to “reset” to “original” focus style
- whether finer-grained control should be available over when :focus-ring should match for a particular element (to allow matching the behaviour of e.g. <input>)
- inert (https://github.com/WICG/inert/blob/master/README.md)
- Sizing
Thursday
Morning
- Tables Issues - Greg/Francois
- input{display:table-*} - Greg
- td{min-width:%} - Francois
- td>div{height:%} - Francois
- fixed-layout width distribution - Greg
- col{visibility:collapse} - Greg
- Automating Test Coverage - Greg
- Revisiting policy around requiring tests for normative changes (see email) - Geoffrey/Chris (who isn’t here)
- [CSS-UI-3] (Florian)
- Getting ready for PR https://test.csswg.org/harness/results/css-ui-3_dev/grouped/filter/17/
- Keep most cursor changes in the UA stylesheet? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1598
- Meaning of “must not affect dispatching of pointer events” https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1637
- Note pointing to HTML’s definition of cursor applying to image maps? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1618
Afternoon
- Fonts (Myles)
- TAG review of OpenType variable fonts https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/183
- [css-fonts] CSSFontFaceRule does not seem Web compatible https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/825
- [css-fonts-4] We can’t add new values to the font-synthesis property 1641
- “Ignored” @font-face https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1133
- Which font properties are reset by the font shorthand? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1349
- Animating font-weight https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1579
- CSS Display Level 3
- Relation of
inline fooandinline-foo(1486 and 1246) - Potential reworking of flow-root syntax (https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1496)
- Should all the `inline-foo` and `inline foo` forms be distinct?
- Becoming a formatting context
- Any other open issues blocking CR
- Relation of
- [CSS-UI-4] ‘auto’ as the initial value for the ‘appearance’ property may not be web-compatible https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1250
- Which font properties should be resolved by the font shorthand? https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1636
Friday
Morning
- CSS Shadow Parts (poking into Shadow DOM in a more controlled manner)
- Review of TTML: send as a group or individually? (https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Jul/0007.html)
- coordination with TT WG over their requirements (followup from TAG meeting last week)
- Nigel Megitt could attend remotely on Friday
- [css-break] Consider adding clone-most-nested 1633
- [css-text-3] letter-spacing - Koji
- End edge behavior
- Bidi-mixed directions
- Applying after line breaking
- finalizing “line-break: break-all” Bikesheding https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1561 and merging https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/pull/1438 (Florian)
- [css-text-4] text-spacing fullwidth punctuation collapsing (Florian)
- [css-writing-modes] Orthogonal Flow Constraint: viewport vs scroller
Afternoon
- Renaming the dynamic and static profiles of selectors https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1694 (Florian)
- CSS Variables that are not changed by the user (dino)
- CSS Grid issues
- maintenance of multicol
- Adding Rachel Andrew as an editor
- Quick intro to APL https://www.kri.sfc.keio.ac.jp/en/lab/aplab.html (Florian)
- Inline Layout
- [css-rhythm][css-line-grid] - Florian/Koji