San Diego F2F 2012
When: August 13-15 2012
Where: San Diego Marriott Marquis & Marina - Torrey Pines 2 & 3
Host: HP (Peter Linss)
Note: Meeting starts at 9:00am, the room will be open from 8:00am with a continental breakfast served.
Meeting Minutes
Monday, 13 August
- Monday AM - @supports and Selectors 4
- Monday PM I - Syntax, Fragmentation
- Monday PM II - Pseudo-elements and Overflow
Tuesday, 14 August
- Tuesday AM I - F2F schedule, CSSOM
- Tuesday AM II - Regions, Exclusions, and Collisions
- Tuesday Noonish - Images Level 4, FPWD Criteria
- Tuesday PM I - Grid Layout
- Tuesday PM II - CSS Variables
Wednesday, 15 August
- Wednesday AM I - Experimental Features Policy aka Prefixing
- Wednesday AM II - Fonts, Text
- Wednesday PM I - Filters, Transforms, Masking
- Wednesday PM II - Writing Modes, Lists and Counter Styles, Case-sensitivity and Normalization
- Wednesday PM III - Sticky Positioning, Animations, SciNot
Hosted Dinner
Tuesday August 14, 6:30pm
George’s on Fifth
In the Wyatt Earp Room (yes, this place was once owned and operated by Wyatt Earp, famous Australian snake wrestler)
Lodging
The preferred hotel is the:
San Diego Marriott Marquis & Marina
333 West Harbor Drive
San Diego, CA 92101
+1-619-234-1500
+1-800-228-9290\
If at all possible please book a room at this hotel, a block of rooms has been reserved at a discounted rate. A link to the registration page is available on the member-only mailing list.
A partial listing of alternate hotels in the area is available here.
Transport to/from Airport
- The meeting hotel is 3.3 miles south-east of the airport, best bet is a taxi, approximate fare US$15.
- The Trolley has a station near the hotel and is good for transport in the downtown area (does not go to the airport).
Participants
Sorted by family name:
| Name | Representing | Arrive | Leave | Hotel | Flight Info | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Glenn Adams | Cox | August 12 | August 16 | Marriott | TBD | |
| Tab Atkins | Aug 12 | Aug 16 | Marriott | TBD | ||
| David Baron | Mozilla | Aug 12, 13:20 | Aug 15, 20:00 | Marriott | VX956 / VX969 | |
| Bert Bos | W3C | Aug 12, 19:38 | Aug 17, 13:10 | Marriott | UA6341/LH8731 | |
| Tantek Çelik | Mozilla | 2012-08-12 13:20 | 2012-08-15 20:00 | Marriott | VX956 / VX969 | |
| John Daggett | Mozilla | August 12 | August 15 | Hard Rock | ||
| fantasai | Mozilla | Aug 12 | Aug 18 | Marriott | in:VX956 / out:2V565+2V14 | |
| Vincent Hardy | Adobe | Aug 12 | Aug 15 | Marriott | ?? | |
| Daniel Glazman | Disruptive Innovations | Aug 12 21:45 | Aug 16 11:37 | Marriott | in:DL2205 / out:UA5608 | |
| Peter Linss | HP | local | – | – | – | |
| Luke Macpherson | Aug 13 | Aug 16 | Marriott | Arriving monday afternoon. | ||
| Edward O’Connor | Apple | 11th | 19th | Hilton Bayfront | - | - |
| Florian Rivoal | Opera | August 12 | August 15 | Marriott | in:AA3105 / out:BA272 | |
| Alan Stearns | Adobe | Aug 12 | Aug 17 | Marriott | Alaska 472/487 | |
| Leif Arne Storset | Opera | August 12 | August 15 | Marriott | in:AA3105 / out:BA272 | |
| Steve Zilles | Adobe | Aug 12 | Aug 16 | Marriott | TBD | |
| Sylvain Galineau | Microsoft | Aug 12 | Aug 15 | Marriott | in:AS482 / out:AS485 | |
| Koji Ishii | Rakuten | Aug 12 | Aug 16 | Marriott | DL156+DL7677/DL4807+DL283 | |
| Rossen Atanassov | Microsoft | Aug 12 | Aug 15 | Marriott | in:TBD / out:TBD | |
| Molly Holzschlag | W3C Invited Experts | August 13 | August 15 | Marriott | TBD |
Regrets:
- Anton Prowse
- Brad Kemper (I really thought I would go, but the timing turns out to be terrible for me)
- Ryan Betts
- Simon Fraser
- Jet Villegas
- Håkon
- John Jansen (I too thought I was going to make it, but the timing is off)
- Arron Eicholz (I unfortunately can’t make it but I will be on IRC the whole time as usual)
Agenda
Mon
AM
- css3-conditional (what to do about the missing OM section)
- CSS3 Conditional Object Model - publish WD
- Selectors 4
PM
- CSS3 Syntax: review, FPWD
- CSS3 Fragmentation: review of edits, WD
- Aliasing page-break and break
- Pseudo-elements proposal
- Region overflow proposal
- overflow-x and overflow-y overhaul (considering paged overflow and repeat overflow). http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012May/1197.html
Tue
AM
- Future meetings
- CSSOM: White-space and line breaks in serialization
- Publish quarterly WDs of CSS3 Regions and CSS3 Exclusions and Shapes
- collision: auto | collide | avoid
- CSS4 Images: Issues with element() and image-set(), so we can unprefix quickly since they already have impls.
PM
- CSS3 Grid Layout
- Variables
Wed
AM
- Prefixing policy - 1 hr max
- CSS3 Fonts: default features, publish new WD?
- CSS3 Text: remaining issues, letter-spacing and justification, preparation for LC?
PM
- Request for FPWD of Filter Effects 1.0
- Interpolation behavior on rotate3d
- CSS Masking
- CSS3 Writing Modes: UTR50, how to avoid bikeshedding, communication with the UTC, text-orientation: upright, and how to make progress
- CSS3 Lists, CSS Counter Styles: Review, publishing. Rearrange the specs so that @counter-style moves to the Counter Style doc and goes to LC or should this be a Rec track spec?
- Sticky positioning
- css3-animations: open issues, update WD, when could we go LC?
Proposed Topics
- Prefixing policy
- Future meetings
- Region overflow proposal
- overflow-x and overflow-y overhaul (considering paged overflow and repeat overflow). http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2012May/1197.html
- Publish quarterly WDs of CSS3 Regions and CSS3 Exclusions and Shapes
- CSS3 Grid Layout
- CSS3 Fragmentation: review of edits, WD
- Aliasing page-break and break
- Sticky positioning
- collision: auto | collide | avoid
- Pseudo-elements proposal
- CSS3 Fonts: default features, publish new WD?
- CSS3 Text: remaining issues, letter-spacing and justification, preparation for LC?
- CSS3 Writing Modes: UTR50, how to avoid bikeshedding, communication with the UTC, text-orientation: upright, and how to make progress
- Selectors 4
- Variables
- CSS3 Syntax: review, FPWD
- css3-conditional (what to do about the missing OM section)
- CSS3 Conditional Object Model - publish WD
- CSSOM: White-space and line breaks in serialization
- CSS3 Lists, CSS Counter Styles: Review, publishing. Rearrange the specs so that @counter-style moves to the Counter Style doc and goes to LC or should this be a Rec track spec?
- CSS4 Images: Issues with element() and image-set(), so we can unprefix quickly since they already have impls.
- css3-animations: open issues, update WD, when could we go LC?
- Request for FPWD of Filter Effects 1.0
- Interpolation behavior on rotate3d
- CSS Masking