Sophia-Antipolis F2F September 2014
Date
September 8–10, 2014
Meeting Minutes
Monday, 8 September:
- Part I, CSS3 Text, Display Module, Backgrounds
- Part II, Line Grid, CSS UI, Geometry Working Draft, z-index and SVG, Prioritizing image(color), randomize(), Animation and calc() of Keywords
- Part III, Motion Path, Issues in Media Queries 4
Tuesday, 9 September:
- Part I, Part Motion as FXTF, Future F2F Meetings
- Part II, GCPM3/GCPM4
- Part III, Initial Letters
- Part IV, Animations
Wednesday, 10 September:
- Part I, CSS UI, Positioning, Next F2F Dates
- Part II, New W3C Process
- Part III, Flexbox
- Part IV, CSS3 Text
- Part V, Survey of All Specs
Place
INRIA
2004, route des Lucioles
Sophia-Antipolis
France (on OSM)
Meeting room: Kahn 1 & 2
(For correspondance:
INRIA
BP 93
06902 Sophia-Antipolis
France)
Contacts
Bert Bos (see member Web site or mailing list for phone numbers)
Participants
Please, put your name in this table if you plan to participate (alphabetic order):
| Name | Arrival | Departure | Hotel | Flight info and notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan Stearns | 6 Sept | 10 Sept | Appt in Antibes | |
| Andrey Rybka | ||||
| Bert Bos | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Chris Lilley | n/a | n/a | n/a | n/a |
| Daniel Glazman | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | Novotel Sophia-Antipolis | AF6210 - AF6213 |
| Dave Cramer | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | House in Antibes | train from Geneva Lyria #9756 |
| David Baron | 7 Sept ?? | 11 Sept | House in Antibes | train / LH1059 |
| Dirk Schulze | 6 Sept | 10 Sept | Novotel Sophia-Antipolis | |
| Edward O’Connor | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | Novotel Sophia-Antipolis | Arrive on UA9202/LH1060 |
| fantasai | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | Appt in Antibes | EWR→NCE via Zurich - SCNF to Paris |
| Florian Rivoal | 3 Sept | 11 Sept | Appt in Antibes | DY1404 - DY1405 |
| Glenn Adams | 7 Sept | 15 Sept | Novotel Sophia-Antipolis | LX528/529 |
| Greg Whitworth | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | Antibes | |
| Ian Kilpatrick | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | Appt in Antibes | |
| Kazutaka Yamamoto | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | TBD | NH5416 / NH6050 |
| Peter Linss | 6 Sept | 10 Sept | Novotel Sophia-Antipolis | UA903 / LH2275; will rent car |
| Philippe Le Hegaret | 7 Sept | 10 Sept | DL412; will rent car | |
| Rossen Atanassov | 8 Sept | 12 Sept | Appt in Antibes | will rent car; pescaterian |
| Shane Stephens | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | Appt in Antibes | |
| Simon Pieters | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | House in Antibes | DY 4323 - SK 1828; will rent car |
| Simon Sapin | 7 Sept | 10 Sept | ||
| Steve Zilles | 8 Sept | 16 Sept | Appt in Antibes | LH 1058; will rent car |
| Tab Atkins | 7 Sept | 11 Sept | House in Antibes | FLT 1060 landing 2:05pm, BA343 leaving 11:50am |
Regrets:
- Sylvain Galineau (will call in when needed)
- Jet Villegas
- Koji Ishii (will call in if possible and when needed)
- Tantek Çelik
- Shinyu Murakami
- Dael Jackson
- Michael Miller
- Lea Verou
- Anton Prowse
- Adenilson Cavalcanti
Travel
Airport
Nearest airport is Nice-Côte-d’Azur (location on OSM)
Taxi
Taxis are expensive, typical rates are €<html> </html>51–57 (from airport to Antibes or Sophia Antipolis). The airport publishes this list of typical prices.
Note: taxis don’t take credit cards!
Train
The nearest train station is Antibes.
The nearest station to the airport is Nice Saint-Augustin: about 1 km on foot from Terminal<html> </html>1, or one stop with bus<html> </html>23. However, it is currently not signposted at the airport at all. (The town of Nice has promised to integrate the train better in the transport around the airport, when the tram line from the airport to the center is ready, in a few years…)
Bus
Airport
Bus<html> </html>230 only on weekdays (PDF schedule) goes from the airport to Sophia Antipolis via the motorway. It stops right in front of INRIA. (Use stop “Caquot“ for hotels Ibis and Mercure; stop “Skema” for hotels Novotel and Oméga). Price: €<html> </html>1.50
Bus<html> </html>250 (PDF schedule) goes from the airport to Antibes via the motorway. Price: €<html> </html>10.
Bus<html> </html>200 (PDF schedule), cheaper but slower, goes from the airport to Antibes (45 min) and Cannes (75 min) and everywhere in between. It stops on the road in front of the airport, not at the airport bus station Price: €<html> </html>1.50
Antibes
Buses in and around Antibes are operated by Envibus, owned collectively by the various towns in its area of service. Here is a map of the bus lines in Antibes [PDF]. A single ticket costs €<html> </html>1.00. You can buy tickets from the driver or at the bus stops indicated as “gare routière” (or “GR.”).
Bus 1 (PDF schedule) goes between Antibes and Sophia-Antipolis. It has stops, among other places, at INRIA and at the bus station next to the Place de Gaulle in Antibes (rue Dugommier).
Bus 12 (PDF schedule) goes between the railway station and Sophia-Antipolis. It has a stop at INRIA. (On the map, it is still called by its old number: 11.)
Bus 100 only on weekdays (PDF schedule) is the express bus between Antibes and Sophia-Antipolis. It stops in Antibes on the Place de Gaulle and on the road above the railway station (called “Vautrin”). The nearest stop to INRIA is “Templiers.”
A small dictionary to help read the schedules:
- horaires = time schedule
- lundi au vendredi = Monday to Friday
- samedi, samedis = Saturday, Saturdays
- dimanches et jours fériés = Sundays and official holidays
- toute l’année = all year round
- période scolaire = school period
- période de vacances scolaires = school holiday period
- sauf = except
- sauf jours fériés = except on official holidays
Rental cars
Rental car companies at the airport have desks at both terminals. The cars themselves are located in front of Terminal<html> </html>2.
INRIA Campus
There is normally no need to have a visitor’s badge if you’re only visiting the meeting rooms and the restaurant. Access to all other buildings is restricted.
There is a reception at the entrance gate, where you may want to ask for directions to the right room. However, there is no need to sign in.
Hotels
There are some hotels at walking distance from INRIA (see below). They are convenient if you come here to work. ☺ After the evening rush, the area is quiet and if you’re awoken by a sound, it is probably a wild boar under your window.
On the other hand, if you take a hotel in one of the surrounding towns (Antibes, Biot, Valbonne, Mougins, Cannes, etc.), you’re sure to have interesting restaurants around you and, especially in Antibes, a number of bars.
Nice is the big town in the area. From the center of Nice to INRIA is about 24 km.
Hotels at walking distance:
- Novotel Sophia-Antipolis **** (0.83 km)
- Oméga *** (1.24 km)
- Mercure **** (1.34 km)
- Ibis *** (1.26 km)
Other
Network
Wifi only. You will get a personal login, so make sure you register in the table above!
There is also an Eduroam network, for those who have such an account.
Money
France uses the Euro (abbreviation: EUR; sign: €). Here is a form for the currency converter at Oanda:
<HTML> <form action=“http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic”> <input type=hidden name=user value=printable><input type=hidden name=lang value=en><input name=exch size=3 value=“USD”><input name=value size=4 value=100>→<input name=expr size=3 value=“EUR”> <input type=submit value=“convert”> </form> </HTML>
Electricity
Electricity in France is 230<html> </html>V, 50<html> </html>Hz. Laptops normally come with a power supply that handles everything from 110<html> </html>V to 230<html> </html>V. That may not be the case for other devices.
Sockets: CEE 7/5 (a.k.a. Type E):
Ungrounded plugs: CEE 7/16 (a.k.a. Europlug or Type C):
Grounded plugs: CEE 7/7: or CEE 7/5 (a.k.a. Type E):
Touristic tips
Antibes-Juan-les-Pins (see tourist office):
- Picasso Museum (also work by De Staël and others)
- Peynet Museum (drawings; temporary exhibition about newspaper cartoons from WO I)
- Archeological Museum (Antibes in the Roman era)
- Saint Bernardin Chapel, Villa Eilenroc, School Museum, art galleries…
- Fort Carré (star-shaped fort at the harbor, the current shape was designed by Vauban)
- old town, covered market, cathedral (in fact: no longer a cathedral since 1244, but everybody still calls it so)
- beach
- harbor
- Antibesland (amusement park), Marineland (dolphins, orcas, etc.), minigolf, swimming pool…
- parks & nature reserves: Jardin Thuret, Fort Carré, Exflora, Eilenroc, around the Cap d’Antibes…
- plenty of bars, restaurants and nightclubs; boutiques, a casino…
Biot (see tourst office):
- Fernand Leger Museum
- Municipal & Ceramic Museum
- Glass blowers
- Bonsai Museum
- Old town: narrow alleys, city gates, 15th century church…
- Art galleries, including inside the tourist office
- Parks & nature: along the Brague river, Chêvre d’Or
- restaurants…
Valbonne (see tourist office):
- Old town, rectangular city plan, church and remains of monastery
- Parks & nature: along the Brague river
- Art galleries, including in the chapel next to the church
- restaurants…
Mougins (see tourist office):
- Museum of Classical Art (impressive collection of Egyptian, Greek and Roman objects, set off with art from other periods)
- Photography museum (permanent expo of photos of Picasso; temporary expositions)
- Old town
- Art galleries, including the old village wash house (Lavoir)
- Parks & nature: Etang de Fontmerle (lake), Valmasque
- restaurants, including some gastronomic ones
Vallauris (see tourist office):
- Picasso’s “War and Peace” Chapel
- Ceramics Museum
- Old town
- Art galleries
Food
- Morning break outside the meeting room
- Buffet lunch in the INRIA restaurant
- Afternoon break outside the meeting room
- For the moment, W3C does not plan to offer a dinner (sponsors welcome!)
Agenda topics
- Display Module: removing ‘display’ longhands (1hr estimate)
- Flexbox: All the Issues, DoC review, LCWD request (half a day estimate)
- Line Grid: publish new draft?
- Inline: i18n issues for initial letters; split into separate module? (30min?)
- GCPM 3: move footnotes to level 4 and go to LC? (30min?)
- GCPM 4: initial strategy, relationship to other specs (regions, page templates, EPUB PGT) (1hr)
- Paginated Views (perhaps as part of the GCPM 4 discussion)
- New WD for Geometry interfaces after TAG input (krit)
- Stacking contexts on SVG (krit)
- Prioritize image(<color>) (krit)
- randomize() function (krit)
- <shape-radius> closest-side/furthest-side and calc() (krit)
- css-animations:
- How keyframe values are computed: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Aug/0115.html
- How dynamic changes to animation/keyframe properties is handled: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14713
- We didn’t yet formally approve the errata text for the background of the canvas.
- CSS Text: DoC review, justification (Koji would like to join over Skype)
- Presentation of Motion Path proposal (if time; no resolutions, krit)
- All WDs that are older than 6 months (see list below)
Agenda
Approximate daily schedule:
| Time | Description |
|---|---|
| 09:00 | session 1 |
| 10:30 | break |
| 10:45 | session 2 |
| 12:15 | lunch |
| 13:15 | session 3 |
| 15:30 | break |
| 15:45 | session 4 |
| 18:00 | end |
Mon
AM
- CSS Text: DoC review, justification (Koji would like to join over Skype)
- Display Module: removing ‘display’ longhands (1hr estimate)
- We didn’t yet formally approve the errata text for the background of the canvas.
- Line Grid: publish new draft?
- caret-color, ::selection, outline-radius
PM
- New WD for Geometry interfaces after TAG input (krit)
- Stacking contexts on SVG (krit)
- Prioritize image(<color>) (krit)
- randomize() function (krit)
- <shape-radius> closest-side/furthest-side and calc() (krit)
- Presentation of Motion Path proposal (if time; no resolutions, krit)
- Media Queries
Tue
AM
- Motion Path followup
- Next f2f dates/locations
- GCPM 3: move footnotes to level 4 and go to LC? (30min?)
- GCPM 4: initial strategy, relationship to other specs (regions, page templates, EPUB PGT) (1hr)
- Paginated Views (perhaps as part of the GCPM 4 discussion)
PM
- Inline: i18n issues for initial letters; split into separate module? (30min?)
- css-animations:
- How keyframe values are computed: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2014Aug/0115.html
- How dynamic changes to animation/keyframe properties is handled: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14713
Wed
AM
- Number of lines in content editable
- text-overflow: ellipsis-lastline
- :focusWithin
- Sticky positioning inside overflow:scroll inner divs
- Revisit next f2f dates
- Adoption of new process
- Flexbox: All the Issues, DoC review, LCWD request (half a day estimate)
PM
- CSS Text: justification
- All WDs that are older than 6 months
Recently updated WDs
- 2014-08-26 CSS Masking Module Level 1
- 2014-08-21 Predefined Counter Styles
- 2014-08-05 CSS Ruby Layout Module Level 1
- 2014-06-26 Geometry Interfaces Module Level 1
- 2014-06-05 Web Animations 1.0
- 2014-06-05 Media Queries Level 4
- 2014-06-03 Encoding
- 2014-06-03 Non-element Selectors Module Level 1
- 2014-05-22 CSS Font Loading Module Level 3
- 2014-05-13 CSS Generated Content for Paged Media Module
- 2014-05-13 CSS Grid Layout Module Level 1
- 2014-05-06 CSS Custom Properties for Cascading Variables Module Level 1
- 2014-04-29 CSS Will Change Module Level 1