Sydney F2F July 2018

• Host: Google
• Location: Google, Sydney (Fairfax Media building)
• Dates:
  • Monday July 2: Houdini Meeting - https://github.com/w3c/css-houdini-drafts/wiki/Sydney-F2F-July-2018
  • Tuesday-Thursday July 3-5: CSS WG Meeting
• Group Dinner: Wednesday

Participants

Name	Arrival	Departure	Hotel	Flight info and notes
Alan Stearns	June 30	July 9	Glebe apt.
Brian Birtles	June 30	July 6	TBD	JL771 / JL772
Cameron McCormack	TBD	TBD	TBD
Chris Lilley	July 1	5 July	AirBnB	BA4137 / BA4136
Dean Jackson			Some hotel	Coming from Yass via horse
Emil A Eklund	July 1	July 13	Sheraton on the Park	QF 12 / QF 81
Emilio Cobos Álvarez	July 2July 3, 05:30	July 11	Meriton Suites Campbell Street	BA987+BA15/??
Eric Willigers			Home
fantasai	July 1	July 9	Meriton Suites World Tower
Florian Rivoal	July 2	July 5	Meriton Suites World Tower
Francois REMY	July 1	July 9	Hilton
Hiroshi Sakakibara	July 2	July 7	Hyatt Regency Sydney	JL771 / JL772
Ian Kilpatrick
Jihye Hong	July 2	July 6	Meriton Suites Kent St.
Koji Ishii	July 1	July 6	Hyatt Regency Sydney
Lea Verou	June 30	Jul 5	Same as ChrisL
L. David Baron	Jun 30	Jul 12	Meriton Suites Campbell Street	UA863 / UA870
Myles C. Maxfield			Sydney Opera House	🛸
Peter Linss	Jul 1	Jul 13	Meriton Suites World Tower	VA2 / VA790/7
Philip Walton	June 30	Jul 12	Hyatt Regency	UA863 / UA870
Rachel Andrew	Jul 1	Jul 7	Pier One Sydney Harbour	EK416 (QF8416) / EK419 (QF8419)
Rossen Atanassov	July 1	July 6	TBD	Flying carpet
Shane Stephens			Home
Tab Atkins-Bittner	2018-07-01	2018-07-06	Meriton Suites World Tower	QF74 / QF73
Tantek Çelik	2018-07-02	2018-07-06	Meriton Suites World Tower	UA863 / UA870
Xidorn Quan			Home

Regrets

• Dave Cramer
• Dael Jackson
• gsnedders
• Jen Simmons
• Greg Whitworth
• …

Agenda

Schedule

Constraints

• Dave Cramer available Tues or Thurs morning
• Chris Lilley out on Thursday
• Dirk available only on afternoons
• Philip out on Thursday

Tuesday

Morning

• 2019 meetings
• Publishing Stuff That’s Almost Ready To Publish
  • CSS Values and Units 3 CR / 4 FPWD
  • CSS Cascade 3 & 4 CR
  • CSS Display 3 CR?
  • CSS Scroll Snap 1 CR update
  • CSS Conditional Rules 3 CR update
  • CSS Writing Modes 3 next step
• Need spec for margin/padding and box-styling terminolgy: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2851
• link to .bs source: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2472
• 11am? initial-letter (~19 issues?)

Afternoon Main Room

• Fonts Level 4 issues
  • ~16 Agenda+ F2F issues
• Values
  • should ic unit use 永 instead of 水?
• Text
  • cursive shaping breaks needs better scoping
  • Question re white space processing rules for U+000D
  • Percentage of ‘text-indent’ against intrinsically sized box?
  • close word-break-break-word with no change
  • Consider adding a third value (skip?) for text-decoration-skip-ink.

Afternoon Breakout at 2pm

• Transforms, Animations, Transitions - all open issues
  • Smarter interpolation of truncated transform lists
  • Explicitly specify that a transform is a containing block for all descendants
  • If above issues were resolved: CSS Transforms LCWD
  • Updating editors of Web Animations
  • More animations/transitions issues?

Wednesday

Morning

• Backgrounds
  • <color> in <shadow> should default to currentcolor
  • Inconsistent position serialization
  • Issues with listifying border-color (Using Single dimensional images™️ for multiple border colors)
• color-filter (Myles/Dino/Thor)
• New CSS Images 3 CR (fantasai, leaverou)
  • cross-fade() interpolation issues
  • Reversing same images
  • Promoting image to cross-fade() for flattening
  • Defer gradient interpolation to L4?

Afternoon

• env() values for full-screen, rounded corners, and phone notches (dino)
  • Process for adding env values
  • safe-area-insets
  • fullscreen-insets
  • fullscreen-auto-hide
• Variables
  • Does `all` reset custom properties?
• Media Queries (dino)
  • prefers-high-contrast
  • prefers-dark-interface
  • Proposal: “prefers-reduced-data”
  • Port Media Groups section of CSS2.1
  • Is the `<mf-range>` “swapping value and name” syntax really useful?
• Bikeshed Bonanza
  • Name the “functional pseudo-class like :matches() with 0 specificity”
• CSSOM/Cascade/Syntax
  • getComputedStyle and shorthands
  • What should getComputedStyle return for an element which isn’t in the flat tree?
  • Consider disallowing NULL code points in stylesheets
• nesting: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2701

Thursday

Morning

• ResizeObserver - two items (Microsoft)
• Contain
  • specified column/row sizes on grid containers should contribute to contain:size
  • `contain` may not want to be animatable.
• Display
  • Blockifications should establish BFC in block containers
• Grid
  • subgrid border/padding/margin
• CSS Box Alignment - Remaining issues, CR transition or 2nd LC?

Afternoon

• Investigate simplifying logical properties? (frremy)
• Overflow
  • max-lines not forwards compatible with fragmented overflow?
  • How does max-lines interact with hidden content?
  • ‘overflow-block’ and ‘block-overflow’ are too similar
  • Updated WD for CSS Oveflow 3
• Multicol
  • Multi-col, spanner margin collapsing, and formatting contexts
• Text Decoration
  • Define how text-decoration-skip{,-ink} interacts with text-decoration
• CSS Scrollbars
  • scrollbar-width
  • FPWD
• CSS-UI-4
  • let user-select:contain prohibit selection from outside
  • Readonly form control and user-select