TPAC 2014

Meeting Minutes

Monday, 27 October:

• Part I, CSS3 UI, ::selection and Pseudo-Elements issues
• Part II, Animations, Media Queries
• Part III, Shrink-to-fit, Sizing
• Part IV, Grid, Test Suites

Tuesday, 28 October

• Part I, Zoom Effects, Flexbox, ::role()
• Part II, Selectors 4, Fragmentation, Transforms
• Part III, Text, Selections, Counter Styles
• Part IV, Fonts
• Part V, Animations, Scrolling Effects and Primitives
• Part VI, Snap Points, Text

Place, Logistics, etc.

http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/

• 2014-10-27..28 CSS WG f2f during TPAC
• 2014-10-30 AM Joint meeting for some with DPUB
• 2014-10-30 PM joint meeting with SVG WG
• 2014-10-31 AM Joint meeting for some with PF

• openstreetmap
• Weather: °C / °F

Participants

Please, put your name in this table if you plan to participate (alphabetical order):

Name	Arrival	Departure	Hotel	Flight info and notes
Glenn Adams	26-oct	01-nov	S/Y Dreamhunter	UA1670
Rossen Atanassov	26-oct	31-oct	Hyatt House Santa Clara
Tab Atkins	-	-	local
L. David Baron	27-oct	29-oct	sort of local
Bert Bos	26-oct	31-oct	Marriott	BA287/BA286
Adenilson Cavalcanti	-	-	local
Dave Cramer	22-oct	01-nov	Marriott	UA 12 Also Books in Browsers
Arron Eicholz	25-oct	31-oct	Marriott	DL4740
Simon Fraser	-	-	local
fantasai	24-oct	02-nov	Mariott	United Airlines
Daniel Glazman	24-oct	31-oct	Marriott and Avatar	AF84/AF83
Dael Jackson	26-oct	01-nov	Marriott	UA1161
Dean Jackson	26-oct	01-nov	Somewhere	Somehow
Brad Kemper	27-oct	31-oct	my house	880 to 680 to 262
Chris Lilley	25-oct	31-oct	marriott	BA 287/ BA 286
Peter Linss	25-oct	01-nov	Marriott	YZF-R1
Michael Miller	26-Oct	01-Nov	Marriott	UA1750
Shinyu Murakami	22-oct	02-nov	Marriott	JL002 / JL001
Matt Rakow	26-oct	30-oct	Avatar
Florian Rivoal	22-oct	30-oct	Marriott
Jacob Rossi	26-oct	30-oct	Avatar
Simon Sapin	25-oct	7-nov	Avatar Hotel	VX933 / EI146
Alan Stearns	26-oct	01-nov	Marriott
Lea Verou	26-oct	30-oct	Hyatt House Santa Clara	US 1705+709, US 895+507
Greg Whitworth	26-oct	30-oct	Hyatt House Santa Clara	AK Airlines 322

Regrets: jdaggett

Agenda

Mon AM

• CSS3-UI
  • Clean up pseudos
  • Add Florian as editor
  • content:icon? Apply to pseudos only? (and why is it called icon?)
• ::selection
• MediaQueries
  • continue a11y discussion from last meeting (high-contrast stuff)
  • names of the overflow-* features
  • review of the custom MQ stuff
  • what to call “the ICB or the page area” for the purpose of the overflow-* features
  • scroll-position MQ (don’t think we should do it, but we should discuss how to address the use-cases)

• css-animations
  • remaining issues at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Animations&list_id=46032&product=CSS&query_format=advanced&resolution=—

Mon PM

• CSS Sizing: Indefinite percentage margins and padding
• CSS Sizing: The intrinsic block-size is a lie
• Floating inline-blocks in a shrink-to-fit context interop issue
• CSS Grid: fragmentation, collapsing and open issues
• Status of CSS 2.2 test suite (i.e., tests for the CSS 2.1 errata)
• Test suites and what spec to focus on next (Hopefully a quick topic)

Tues AM

• flexbox issues
  • details?
• Discuss split layout/visual viewport and zoom types (MaRakow)
• Selectors
  • ::role() proposal
• status of selectors4 (especially for :dir())
• CSS Fragmentation update
• CSS Transforms
  • Feedback on new spec text for 3D rendering (incl. preserve-3d)
  • 3D rendering issues
• CSS Text

Tues PM

• CSS Fonts:
  • classification of Kai as cursive [jdaggett: don’t think this requires group discussion]
  • unicode-range issues
  • Google’s font-rendering descriptor for @font-face
  • creating CSS4 Fonts for new work
• CSS Text part 2
• animation-behaviour (CSS Animations Level 2)
• Scrolling things (3pm)
  • animation triggers and timebase
  • scroll-delay
  • beforescroll
  • snap-points review 10/24 updates, additional feedback, FPWD? (MaRakow)

DigiPub (Thursday 8:30AM-11:00AM)

• Pagination, Page DOM, Page Events, Box Tree API

FxTF (Thursday PM)

• Filters
  • backdrop effects
  • more primitives?
  • defer auto filter region?
  • Implementation status
• Compositing Blending spec to PR (possible for FX day)
• Motion Path (FXTF topic)
  • Reference boxes for motion paths
• CSS Transforms
  • Issue with percentage (e.g. calc(0% + 20px) ) on transform-origin for SVG
• Geometry interfaces
  • inverse()
  • CR?

PF (Friday AM)

Proposed Topics

• Scrolling things
  • animation triggers and timebase
  • scroll-delay
  • beforescroll
  • snap-points review 10/24 updates, additional feedback, FPWD? (MaRakow)
• Status of CSS 2.2 test suite (i.e., tests for the CSS 2.1 errata)
• Test suites and what spec to focus on next (Hopefully a quick topic)
• CSS Sizing: Indefinite percentage margins and padding
• CSS Sizing: The intrinsic block-size is a lie
• css-animations
  • remaining issues at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Animations&list_id=46032&product=CSS&query_format=advanced&resolution=—
  • animation-behaviour (CSS Animations Level 4)
• Floating inline-blocks in a shrink-to-fit context interop issue
• CSS Grid: fragmentation, collapsing and open issues
• CSS Fonts:
  • classification of Kai as cursive [jdaggett: don’t think this requires group discussion]
  • unicode-range issues
  • Google’s font-rendering descriptor for @font-face
  • creating CSS4 Fonts for new work
• flexbox issues
  • details?
• Discuss split layout/visual viewport and zoom types (MaRakow)
• Filters
  • backdrop effects
  • more primitives?
• Compositing Blending spec to PR (possible for FX day)
• Selectors
  • ::role() proposal
• MediaQueries
  • continue a11y discussion from last meeting (high-contrast stuff)
  • names of the overflow-* features
  • review of the custom MQ stuff
  • what to call “the ICB or the page area” for the purpose of the overflow-* features
  • scroll-position MQ (don’t think we should do it, but we should discuss how to address the use-cases)
• CSS Transforms
  • Issue with percentage (e.g. calc(0% + 20px) ) on transform-origin for SVG
  • Feedback on new spec text for 3D rendering (incl. preserve-3d)
  • 3D rendering issues
• Motion Path (FXTF topic)
  • Reference boxes for motion paths
• ::selection
• CSS3-UI
  • Clean up pseudos
  • Add Florian as editor
  • content:icon? Apply to pseudos only? (and why is it called icon?)
• status of selectors4 (especially for :dir())

Social

Saturday Oct 25 Board Games with Tab:

• Florian
• plinss
• Alan

Saturday Nov 1 Board Games with Tab:

• Shane

Wednesday Wineries in Saratoga:

• Shane + lunch
• Rossen + lunch
• Bogdan
• Keshav + lunch
• Jacob + lunch
• Greg
• Dirk + lunch
• Matt + lunch
• Simon Sapin + lunch
• Rik Cabanier + lunch
• Wilhelm + lunch
• Lea
• Chris Lilley
• Ian + lunch
• jdaggett [in spirit only…]
• Adenilson Cavalcanti + lunch
• Mihnea + lunch

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