W3C

Publishing Maintenance Working Group Telco

07 June 2024

Attendees

Present
Avneesh Singh, Charles LaPierre, David Hall, Gautier Chomel, George Kerscher, Gregorio Pellegrino, Hadrien Gardeur, Ivan Herman, Laurent Le Meur, Masakazu Kitahara, toshiaki, Tzviya Siegman, Wendy Reid
Regrets
Brady Duga, Rick Johnson, Shinya Takami
Chair
Tzviya Siegman, Wendy Reid
Scribe
Gautier Chomel

Possible Topics for TPAC

<Ivan Herman> Date: 2024-06-07

<Wendy Reid> w3c/pm-wg#5

Wendy Reid: TPAC is happening in September in California. What should we do there?

Tzviya Siegman: workshop, for example on preparation we've been doing for EAA.

Tzviya Siegman: also we may want to improve group coordination.

Charles LaPierre: related to EAA, ther's a new directive from DOJ that may affect publishers.

<David Hall> Planning to be at TPAC...

<Laurent Le Meur> remote

<Avneesh Singh> It depends on agenda.

<Ivan Herman> planning to be there

Tzviya Siegman: quick survey, looks like David, Charles, Wendy and Ivan will be in person.

David Hall: if we have no consensus on webtoons / comics at that time, it may be an intersting topic.

Laurent Le Meur: another item I would like to put on the september agenda is shared anotations. We are implementing anotations in Thorium but wait for a consensus to add shareable exports. That's leverages the issue on locators.

Ivan Herman: because we'll be in california, we may invite hypothesis.

Ivan Herman: on adminiustrative side there as been a number of minor editions. Some will request merge.

Tzviya Siegman: we can discuss locators and annotations, but maybe this is not so much about standard, instead it's about reading system business cases. Are they willing to implement something? As solutions exists, we should try to understand why they are few used.

Hadrien Gardeur: regarding annotations, in the readium context we want to embed annotations in a package to share offline or without authentication. So less complex than needs of protocoles, etc. Readium is 80+ apps now.

Hadrien Gardeur: I made a proposal related to comic / webtoons. I'll probably add context documentation. I know it's a difficult topic but it needs to be addressed.

Wendy Reid: before retail reading and education reading contexts where opposed, but that changed in the last years. At Kobo we see reader driven energy on the topic of being capable of sharing annotations. It's also a topic for social medias. We've moved from the exclusively academic / scholar context.

Wendy Reid: it's time to have this discussion again.

Wendy Reid: we have talked about TTS and Reader mode before (in the FxL Accessibility TF). It may be a good subject too.

Hadrien Gardeur: I worked on the topic of voice selection in the last months. There's a lot of work needing to be sliced. I'm happy to share that work now and in September.

Charles LaPierre: with the explosion of AI, it became a hot topic for publishers. Maybe we want to discuss that too.

Tzviya Siegman: It's interesting, but may not be part of our maintenance group charter.

<Hadrien Gardeur> Voice selection:

<Hadrien Gardeur> - Best practices for voice selection in reading apps: https://github.com/HadrienGardeur/read-aloud-best-practices/blob/main/voice-selection.md

<Hadrien Gardeur> - Known-issues in browsers: https://github.com/users/HadrienGardeur/projects/2/views/1

<Hadrien Gardeur> - Recommended voices on the Web: HadrienGardeur/web-speech-recommended-voices

<Hadrien Gardeur> - Demo for recommended voices: https://hadriengardeur.github.io/web-speech-recommended-voices/demo/

Ivan Herman: all security things are also to be considered, like simply signing a book digitally. It's related to AI, we may want to adress it. We are silent on it currently and may want to address the topic.

Gregorio Pellegrino: how about community group and business group, are they planning to meet at TPAC?

Wendy Reid: i don't know, but they will probably want to join our workshops.

Tzviya Siegman: dealing with time zone will not be easy.

Ivan Herman: we are the publishing maintenance working group which is not only epub. What about discussing audiobooks and publication manifest?

Wendy Reid: shared anotations, TTS, TdM, Signing. Any conversation should be format agnostic.

Wendy Reid: in Canada we have a grant for NNELS to write a guideline for publishers about commercial audiobooks accessibility.

Tzviya Siegman: I'm participating to discussion about workflow identifiers. ISBN are usefull but we may be needing workflow identifiers. It may be interesting to discuss if there are usecases.

Ivan Herman: with my W3C hat, the charter put's new identifiers out of scope.

Wendy Reid: a lot of topics now. Some have connections with others WG. Great point with TPAC is that we can meet others groups in join meetings.

Wendy Reid: we have time for more topics

Avneesh Singh: we may want to filter so many topics.

Charles LaPierre: TPAC is a great place for brainstorm / socials too.

Wendy Reid: thanks! Remember the issue : w3c/pm-wg#5

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