W3C

– DRAFT –
Publishing Maintenance Working Group Telco

10 January 2025

Attendees

Present
Avneesh Singh, Brady Duga, Charles LaPierre, duga9, George Kerscher, Hadrien Gardeur, Ivan Herman, Laurent Le Meur, Masakazu Kitahara, q+, Rick Johnson, Shinya Takami, Susan Neuhaus, Toshiaki Koike, Tzviya Siegman, Wendy Reid
Regrets
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Chair
Wendy Reid
Scribe
Susan Neuhaus, SueNeu1, SueNeu8

<Ivan Herman> Meeting: Publishing Maintenance Working Group Telco

<Susan Neuhaus> scribe: SueNeu

<Wendy Reid> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/pmwg-recharter/

wendyreid The charter is up with the W3C

Ivan Herman: we did get one comment on the charter, that the charter is missing reference to 1.2 accessibility standard. Are there any reasons we wouldn’t want to change the version number

Avneesh Singh: There is no strong reason, we had a clear agenda on 1.1, right now we don’t have such a definitive list for 1.2

Ivan Herman: we use 3.4 for the placeholder version, that should be OK for the accessibllitiy

Wendy Reid: we want to talk a little bit about work load
... and the timing and cadence of meetings

<Tzviya Siegman> s/Avneesh There is no/Avneesh Singh: There is no

Wendy Reid: do we still want to alternate times?

George Kerscher: I am OK with this time, and the alternative might push into other things. Especially if it avoids breaking out an Asian meeting

duga9: Setting the time for this meeting is a thankless job. If this time works for most people, lets keep it. It wastes everyones time to have multiple meetings

Ivan Herman: we have set up this meeting to be a fixed time in Japan, but the time will change in other regions

Wendy Reid: We don’t have any friends from Apple or Google, and they are on the west coast. This time might not be good for them…
... perhaps we should consider changing the day. With the consideration that this is part of the weekend in Japan

Shinya Takami: It is now 11pm on Friday night in Japan. Perhaps another day would be better than every Friday night

Wendy Reid: I’ll set up a survey, perhaps this time is good, but we could consider another day
... taskforces. Should we set up task forces that work separately and report back to the main meeting?

George Kerscher: Doodle has gotten more accessible

<Tzviya Siegman> https://savvycal.com/

Tzviya Siegman: I’ve used SavvyCal, it is better for usability and privacy

Ivan Herman: let’s use SavvyCal if is a better tool

Wendy Reid: to the taskforce model question…
... we are already doing this for the accessiblity tf

duga9: taskforce can make it easier to know who is in charge of what, or it can make for 4 or more meetings per week

Avneesh Singh: Taskforce is the normal model used in the W3C. Do we have people who are ready to takeover the taskforce?

AvneeeshSingh: If we don’t it can fall back on the chairs. So we should be flexible

Ivan Herman: Maybe what we should experiment with is to have for each semi-taskforce, one person who drives it…
... that person should decide if separate meetings are required…
... we have several areas of interest. We should start by identifying people who can drive the main sub areas.

LaurentM: We are not enough people to have separate calls. But some areas will only be of interest to some parts of the community…
... but duplicate calls are unmanageable

Wendy Reid: we are looking at a lot of meetings because we have taken on a lot…
... If we can get leads for the main sub areas, like annotations and webtoons…
... I’ll continue with fxl accessibility

LaurentM: I will be OK to lead annotation because we are implementing first shot of annotation support, we have some expertise…

<SueNeu1> scribe: SueNeu1

<Tzviya Siegman> kick SueNeu1

<SueNeu8> scribe: SueNeu8

Ivan Herman: We have taskforce leaders for fixed layout– wendyreid

…we have LaurenM for annotation

…we have shiestyle and Hadrien for webtoons

duga9: We should likely have a single taskforce for comics and webtoons

Ivan Herman: two more things, one issue is editorship. We still have to have an agreement with Matt if he will continue doing the editorship

…we have two editors, Matt and I, Matt is driving.

…with the taskforces, we have to identify people willing to edit.

…additionally, the load of reviewing the spec, horizontal reviews, is important to consider

…one way to handle this is to have one person responsible for looking at horizontal issues, like internationalization issues

…across all documents. They can quickly contact the required groups

…we don’t need to decide this today but soon

Tzviya Siegman: Github is our horizontal monitor but it is a lot of work

Ivan Herman: I am happy to look at internationalization

Wendy Reid: our last topic, face to face meeting

…we thought it would be a good idea to have a meeting in the spring.

…following the charter, maybe April or May

Wendy Reid: the ac meeting is in April this year, in France

<Charles LaPierre> I can't make it either.

Laurent Le Meur, Ivan Herman, Rick, and wendyreid will be there

Ivan Herman: we will have a face to face meeting in Japan later this year so we shouldn’t have two in one year

Laurent Le Meur: perhaps we can extend our stay at the AC meeting

Tzviya Siegman: I am not available at that time

Wendy Reid: could we have it in Paris before?

Laurent Le Meur: I can help organize that. Maybe it is easier to find another room in Sophia, maybe on Sunday

…it is a pretty long train ride from Paris

Hadrien Gardeur: maybe people coming from abroad are coming to Paris or Nice

Ivan Herman: should we put this into the same survey as the meeting days/times?

Wendy Reid: we should come up with a list of options

Ivan Herman: maybe we should look into getting a room in Sophia

Tzviya Siegman: we were unable to get a new member meeting room on Sunday but had an issue

Ivan Herman: can we choose anytime in Paris?

Hadrien Gardeur: we can find a venue in Paris without a problem

duga9: does anyone know when the visa requirements start for Americans?

<Rick Johnson> https://www.gov.uk/guidance/apply-for-an-electronic-travel-authorisation-eta

<Rick Johnson> https://etias.com

Wendy Reid: the UK one has changed dates several times but it looks like mid-2025

<Laurent Le Meur> https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias_en

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