W3C

VCWG Barcodes and Data Integrity

12 October 2026

Attendees

Present
elaine_wooton, greg_bernstein, Phillip Long
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
transcriber

Meeting minutes

Meeting Start And Absence

Phillip Long: We're the only ones here, Greg?

Greg_Bernstein: I was and…

Greg_Bernstein: I thought I was late. Geez, it's 9:01.

Phillip Long: I'm going to check by email and…

Greg_Bernstein: Unless This TPC is …

Phillip Long: whether or not I see anything. I next week,…

Greg_Bernstein: is this not this week? Okay.

Phillip Long: isn't it next week? I think No, it's coming up, but I don't think it's this week. let me just see here. so far I don't see anything.

Greg_Bernstein: We'll give him a couple minutes. baby,…

Greg_Bernstein: what's he saying? Unless We do not have daylight.

Phillip Long: Unless we've got the wrong link.

Greg_Bernstein: This is what I used last time. let me check because I have multiple calendar entries for this and…

Phillip Long: I know. It's a mess.

Greg_Bernstein: I've got one that still goes back to I think Zoom.

Greg_Bernstein: Let me see. I got another entry here.

Phillip Long: I don't think it's zoom.

Greg_Bernstein: No, this is the pox one, right? X.

Phillip Long: Yep. No,…

Greg_Bernstein: Yeah, this is one. Let me Okay.

Phillip Long: I don't see anything. the lane's here.

Greg_Bernstein: If three of us showed up, then it most likely is a meeting.

Elaine_Wooton: No, she's cancelled it now. It is …

Phillip Long: It is a holiday in the US.

Greg_Bernstein: That's…

Elaine_Wooton: right. But I Yeah,…

Greg_Bernstein: what are we called this holiday now?

Phillip Long: It's Indigenous People's Day,…

Greg_Bernstein: You okay?

Phillip Long: aka Columbus Day. previously. No,…

Elaine_Wooton: it's a day, but I don't recall Manu and West not being available on holidays like that, so…

Phillip Long: I don't either. let me just ping Mono and…

Elaine_Wooton: who I'm actually in Copenhagen just hours ago.

Phillip Long: I've got him in signal, so let me see what I can find. Manu

Cyber Attack On Supermarkets

Phillip Long: Are your supermarkets suffering from the cyber attack?

Elaine_Wooton: No.

Phillip Long: Do you hear about that?

Elaine_Wooton: Tell me.

Phillip Long: The cyber attack. Somebody has managed to break into supermarkets refrigeration control systems for refrigerated foods and…

Greg_Bernstein: …

Greg_Bernstein: I bet it's now.

Phillip Long: and cranked up the temperature to 50° C and ruining the food in so far several hundred supermarkets across France and Denmark.

Elaine_Wooton: No. I only here a few hours ago, so I have not consumed their local news. So, I will have to pay attention to that. That's very interesting. it's going to be everywhere because everything is vulnerable and we've known that the only things that haven't hacked are things that nobody wanted to hack

Phillip Long: Let's see.

Elaine_Wooton: What? Yeah. Yeah.

Greg_Bernstein: Yep, there it is. Major French supermarket chains hit by cyber attack. Food stock impacted. You think? Yeah. When we can't eat, people are going to get a little bit more serious about cyber security, especially for why do they keep changing the names? It's not embedded to operational systems.

Greg_Bernstein: OTS. Yeah.

Greg_Bernstein: Which they keep changing the name to what they call.

Elaine_Wooton: So they can.

Phillip Long: So, just to let me interrupt and…

Meeting Cancellation Due To Holiday

Phillip Long: Manu says he doubts there's a meeting today, federal holiday for an all of his folks are out of the office.

Elaine_Wooton: Okay. Cool. …

Phillip Long: So, I think No,…

Greg_Bernstein: Back to work then. Let's see…

Phillip Long: no, back to going on looking at the news to find out what the hell's going on.

Elaine_Wooton: I was supposed to meet one of my colleagues that's here. We were going to walk to the Neto grocery store and get yogurt for in the morning and I needed to do this call instead. So, I'm going to ping her and then I will walk over to the grocery with her and

Greg_Bernstein: what happens.

Phillip Long: Let's see…

Elaine_Wooton: if there's unorded going on there.

Phillip Long: what happens. Yeah.

Elaine_Wooton: But it might be that it's not that chain. So,

Phillip Long: It could be likely the case.

Phillip Long: Apparently, the chain that's serving the stores in France is from a software company in Denmark. That's the ones that have the control systems for managing refrigeration in the stores. And so there's a number of chains in France that were hit and some in Denmark that have this same software installed, but small little grocery stores and things like that may not.

Phillip Long: So you may be fine,…

Elaine_Wooton: So, it could be …

Elaine_Wooton: yeah. I'm reading the article. Wow. Yeah,…

Phillip Long: but just a prelude to intended disruptions going forward.

Elaine_Wooton: it's yeah, there will be many disruptions of many things and…

Phillip Long: Yes. Yes.

Indoor Gardening Discussion

Elaine_Wooton: that's what grow your own food. This is one of my favorite lines Growing your own food is like printing your own money.

Phillip Long: A little bit hard for us. We're in a townhouse.

Elaine_Wooton: So, I threw micro greens, spinach, lettuce, and bok choy in bins in a row along the back of my dining room table in my kitchen.

Phillip Long: Excellent. …

Elaine_Wooton: And always Yeah.

Greg_Bernstein: So that's inside gardening.

Phillip Long: I may turn to you for some advice. Elaine Wooton:

Elaine_Wooton: inside gardening. Yeah. What?

Greg_Bernstein: Then you don't have the problem I have with the darn squirrels. They ravaged my sunflowers.

Elaine_Wooton: Yeah. Yeah.

Greg_Bernstein: They ravaged my peach and nectar multi-tree.

Phillip Long: Killer squirrels.

Greg_Bernstein: God. Yeah.

Elaine_Wooton: Yeah. they are problematic. Yeah. this works out pretty well. the trick is you can never put the bins outside because they'll get insects in them and then you have insects in the house. So It has to be in the house. You get one set of grow lights. I guess it was 16 dish pans from the dollar store and you nest them one in the other so that you get some air underneath.

Elaine_Wooton: And then you just constantly plant the seed as you're eating the one. As soon as it's done, you back doesn't take up too much room. And then you have fresh stuff and it's nice, but and it's just two of you in the household.

Phillip Long: Yep. Yeah,…

Elaine_Wooton: No, it'd be just fine. We can just have a little salad. It's so fantastic.

Retirement And Travel Plans

Phillip Long: we're going to be changing our living style. I'm in the process of a second attempt at retirement and so while I am staying involved with W3C because it's more avocational and I have a connection to I'm actually technically on staff for Arizona State University.

Phillip Long: Although I just put in hours when I decide to do any work for them.

Phillip Long: But we're going on holiday coming next the beginning of next year for about four or five months. So, yep.

Greg_Bernstein: four or five months. I was going to do six weeks, but that's even more. Greg Bernstein:

Phillip Long: We're six weeks in Argentina, then a transatlantic ship from Buenosides to Barcelona, stopping in Northern Africa on the way. and…

Greg_Bernstein: Wait, are you doing the Drake's Passage…

Phillip Long: then, …

Greg_Bernstein: or not? Okay.

Phillip Long: no, it's not the Drake's Passage. It's literally directly across from Brazil. We stop at Receife and then we go across to the Canaries.

Phillip Long: And then it ends in Barcelona and then we have three or four weeks in France and Spain. The intention is to look for a place that we can routinely go back to…

Elaine_Wooton: That's s***.

Greg_Bernstein: I just like the summer and…

Phillip Long: where for four or five months at a time somewhere in either very northern northwestern Spain or very southwestern France.

Greg_Bernstein: winter thing. So, we're heading to Australia.

Australia Travel Discussion

Phillip Long: I used to live there…

Phillip Long: if you have any questions. I was there for seven years. You're going to be in Perth.

Greg_Bernstein: I like Perth area.

Greg_Bernstein: I like a Western Australia…

Phillip Long: Wow.

Greg_Bernstein: because it's got wind conditions similar to California for wind surfing and wing foiling. So yeah,…

Phillip Long: Yeah, you get that on the east coast as well.

Phillip Long: So that's not unique to the west, but you get great wine growing region just south of Perth,…

Greg_Bernstein: you don't get it as well in Senate Margaret River.

Phillip Long: Margaret River. Exactly. Yeah.

Greg_Bernstein: Yeah. I just Really,…

Phillip Long: There's a train that goes from Perth through all the way to Adelaide and on to Melbourne. called it's kind of a tourist train now. You get a compartment, you get, tablecloth dinners served. It stops periodically on the track so you can get out and look around at various things, etc. called the gaunt.

Greg_Bernstein: but from Perth to Adelaide, you're going through the middle of the outback.

Phillip Long: You're going through the outback. Yep. Yep.

Greg_Bernstein: I mean,…

Phillip Long: And you stop at the world's largest strip mine, too.

Phillip Long: I will see you all soon in the next calls and…

Greg_Bernstein: Okay. Yes.

Elaine_Wooton: That sounds indeed.

Phillip Long: good luck with your gardening.

Elaine_Wooton: Indeed. All right.

Phillip Long: Cheers everyone.

Greg_Bernstein: right, Okay. I guess it's going to be two weeks…

Elaine_Wooton: Catch up later.

Greg_Bernstein: because next week is Deepac.

Phillip Long: That sounds right now.

Greg_Bernstein: And I think they want some of us at some of it. So, I think I'll be calling in. Who knows?

Phillip Long: I'm gonna try to do that.

Phillip Long: I haven't actually signed up. It may be too late. But I can tell you in just a second.

Elaine_Wooton: It's the next week,…

Greg_Bernstein: Yeah. I don't know.

Elaine_Wooton: isn't it?

Greg_Bernstein: Could be.

Elaine_Wooton: Yeah. I'm in Kansas and…

Phillip Long: It's the 26th.

Elaine_Wooton: the next week is k. Yeah. So,…

Greg_Bernstein: Okay. Elaine Wooton:

Elaine_Wooton: two weeks. So I think we are meeting next week.

Phillip Long: Two weeks. Yeah. All right.

Greg_Bernstein: Good.

Phillip Long: We'll see you then. Cheers.

Elaine_Wooton: Okay. Bye all. Bye.

Greg_Bernstein: Okay. Bye. Meeting ended after 00:12:11 👋 This editable transcript was computer generated and might contain errors. People can also change the text after it was created.

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