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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 16th of September 2015

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. MakotoUeki
    04:16
    Facebook share button seems to have a keyboard trap when using Firefox on Windows. https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/share-button
    Does anyone has a solution?
  2. jonathantneal
    14:42
    Is there a practical ARIA / best practice markup pattern for blockquotes and pullquotes somewhere?
  3. aardrian
    14:51
    @jonathantneal What is it you are trying to achieve? I use blockquotes on my blog all the time, sans any ARIA. I also use footer with cite element to link to sources.
  4. jonathantneal
    14:52
    The quote itself may be one or more paragraphs, and it may or may not have a cite depending on whether it’s a blockquote or a pullquote. I had reviewed http://html5doctor.com/cite-and-blockquote-reloaded/
  5. jonathantneal
    14:53
    I expected something like (the <footer> is optional these days?): 
    <blockquote><some-container><p/><p/></some-container><cite/></blockquote>
  6. aardrian
    14:53
    @jonathantneal That post helped inform how I re-jiggered mine for my blog.
  7. aardrian
    14:54
    <blockquote><p>foo</p><ul><li>stuff</li></ul><footer><cite></cite></footer></blockquote>
  8. stevefaulkner
    15:11

    @Tigt :point_up: September 15, 2015 8:03 PM

    suggest role=group on <svg> if it is composed of separate images you want exposed as such. Although some browser/AT combos expose nested SVG images, see results and note here https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/377471/SVG/adobesimplesvgtest4.html

  9. zakim-robot
    17:13
    [Sam Ogami, a11y] Does anyone know if role="chart" is support in any other browser other than Safari?
  10. zakim-robot
    17:16
    [Jesse Beach, a11y] My vague memory is no, it's not
  11. zakim-robot
    17:22
    [Sam Ogami, a11y] Thanks @jessebeach So in an SVG with multiple parts (like a pie chart) would you want to use role="group" and then each segment would be role="img" or something else?
  12. zakim-robot
    17:24
    [Jesse Beach, a11y] @sogami, I'm not familiar with using ARIA with SVG.
  13. zakim-robot
    17:25
    [Jesse Beach, a11y] My initial impression is that a role="img" on each segment will end up in a very verbose readback
  14. zakim-robot
    18:09
    [dylanb, a11y] @sogami: you might want to use ARIA grid markup
  15. zakim-robot
    18:09
    [dylanb, a11y] because often pie chart data is actually tabular data
  16. zakim-robot
    18:09
    [dylanb, a11y] the fact that it is being presented as an image is irrelevant to the structure of the data
  17. zakim-robot
    18:10
    [dylanb, a11y] so instead of a group, you might use a row role
  18. zakim-robot
    19:26
    [jitendra, a11y] What A11y experts think about SMS OTP password?
  19. zakim-robot
    19:26
    [jitendra, a11y] How a blind person will deal with it, if he need to take OTP from mobile and type in Web app?
  20. zakim-robot
    22:47
    [Brian Kardell, a11y] ok... who can show me an accessible button which has a tooltip concept which can also be used on touch-only devices. prizes for creativity.
  21. zakim-robot
    22:50
    [Brian Kardell, a11y] background - I have a kind of secondary button which requires some explanation - the idea was to give it a tooltip, but since some touch devices leave no concept of 'hover' just touching the button would activate it before the user got a chance to find out what it does. Solving all of the other use cases is easy, but this one seems tough.