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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 28th of October 2015

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. garcialo
    13:10
    @alice Remember when I was complaining that there wasn't a tool that when given a color would produce a list of colors with sufficient contrast? Turns out I was wrong. http://contrast-finder.tanaguru.com/
  2. MichielBijl
    13:45
    @garcialo awesome find!
  3. MichielBijl @MichielBijl bookmarks
  4. garcialo
    13:56
    The plugin is almost good-ish too. It will give the contrast of things hovered over. Unfortunately, it won't give contrast for things that have focus.
  5. garcialo
    13:56
    hmmm...and it would probably get confused by hover/focus styles.
  6. stevefaulkner
    16:16
    slackers :sparkles:
  7. garcialo
    16:25
    Howdy slackstar
  8. powrsurg
    19:55
    How does one force iOS VoiceOver to read the next element inside a div (an h1) instead of the image that appears immediately after the h1 after the parent div is given focus. I don't understand why it's not reading in source order, but everyone else seems to. I even tried adding aria-flowto to tell it to go to the h1 next and it still ignored it.
  9. StommePoes
    20:15
    it appears after the h1 in source order but is it visually before the h1? does your finger hit the img first when going from top to bottom on the screen?
  10. powrsurg
    20:15
    no, it is visually below the h1
  11. powrsurg
    20:16
    the application is a wizard that has a next/prev button. When you hit next it puts you in the top of this div which has a new h1 and image
  12. powrsurg
    20:17
    basically think of it like a power point presentation with buttons to go to each slide
  13. powrsurg
    20:17
    so the image is quite important, yes, and it is large, but the header for it is important
  14. powrsurg
    20:18
    oh, the main div says that it has an aria-labelledby of the h1 just as another means of trying to get it to go to the h1. Like aria-flowto it didn't help
  15. alice
    20:29
    Oh hello this channel
  16. alice
    20:29
    Did the pipe get disconnected?
  17. garcialo
    20:29
    maybe?
  18. alice
    20:30
    @garcialo That tool is .. interesting
  19. garcialo
    20:30
    looks like yes
  20. garcialo
    20:30
    interesting? how so?
  21. alice
    20:31
    It seems like they have some pre-determined list of colors
  22. alice
    20:31
    and they literally iterate that list and check the contrast ratio
  23. alice
    20:31
    based on some notion of "closeness" to the original color
  24. garcialo
    20:31
    ah, gotcha
  25. alice
    20:32
    In my not at all humble opinion, my color suggestions are better
  26. garcialo
    20:32
    =)
  27. garcialo
    20:32
    how are you doing it?
  28. alice
    20:32
    maths :)
  29. alice @alice gets link which explains it
  30. garcialo
    20:32
    I will say that I love me some math
  31. garcialo
    20:33
    so maybe what I truly want is a tool with their interface and your math
  32. alice
    20:33
    You can try it out in the a11y devtools extension
  33. alice
    20:34
    Also in tota11y
  34. alice
    20:34
    (tota11y has many UI advantages over the extension)
  35. alice
    20:35
    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wzJob0FRpWfSxDEkCo_VRsmo0E3ZOethWpOoaA91_y4/edit#slide=id.g63d390087_1_154 the next ~30 (!) slides explain the maths
  36. alice
    20:35
    though it takes a bit of a windy route to get there
  37. garcialo
    20:35
    =)
  38. alice
    20:38
    One "round tuit" project I've had for a while is to write an extension which uses those color suggestions to bump up the contrast on any page
  39. garcialo
    20:38
    like an auto contrastizer?
  40. alice
    20:38
    In all likelihood I'll never get to it, so that's a free idea if anyone has more tuits than me
  41. alice
    20:38
    yup, exactly
  42. garcialo
    20:39
    mine are full right now, unfortunately =(
  43. alice
    20:39
    I think this is a common problem
  44. garcialo
    20:39
    yeah, I've tried getting time in places, but sleep is usually non very compromising
  45. alice
    20:39
    I literally have nightmares about owing people code reviews
  46. garcialo
    20:39
    hah
  47. garcialo
    20:42
    Well, if you ever do get to making that, it should also un-none link text-decoration =p
  48. alice
    20:43
    heh, ok :)
  49. garcialo
    20:43
    that would make me so happy; but I do kind of like arguing with people about that one
  50. garcialo
    20:44
    ...they tend to get miffed when I call out all of their links in paragraphs with poor contrast as errors
  51. dylanb
    20:44
    The pipe is totally broken between this gitter and the slack
  52. garcialo
    20:45
    Yes, it is. =\
  53. dylanb
    20:45
    I am not against that, just was not aware of it
  54. garcialo
    20:46
    Yeah; @alice just made me aware of it a few minutes ago
  55. garcialo
    20:46
    Which is why I'm now in both
  56. stevefaulkner
    20:53
    Will check out pipe
  57. zakim-robot
    22:11
    [zakim robot, a11y] @dylanb: @garcialo pipe me aboard captain
  58. alice
    22:12
    one two two
  59. garcialo
    22:12
    Hooray!
  60. zakim-robot
    22:12
    [alice, a11y] wohoo!
  61. garcialo
    22:12
    Looks like @stevefaulkner DOES care about slack people.
  62. zakim-robot
    22:13
    [zakim] took me a while couldn't remember accounts/passwords for zalim bot
  63. zakim-robot
    22:15
    [zakim] but have also now found setting so the unames are displayed in gitter chat and the team name is not , much less verbose and more useful \o/
  64. zakim-robot
    22:18

    a11yslackers chat log 27th October 2015 http://w3c.github.io/a11ySlackers/archives/2015/10/2015-10-27.html

  65. zakim-robot
    22:53
    [jdan] thx @alice, just saw your message now