Archive index

A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 21st of October 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 00:03
    [sitaggart] Yeah its been busted in Safari for ages, and broke in the latest version of Chrome recently @jessebeach
  2. [sitaggart] adding aria-selected="true" to the option that is the target of active descendant seemed to kick Safari into shape. But Chrome still doesn't announce anything
  3. [sitaggart] See http://ianmcburnie.github.io/mindpatterns/combobox/ which has aria-selected to see if working in Safari
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 03:43
    [caesar] Hi... is there a page somewhere that lists out the priority order of accessibility text calculation for any (all) given tags, e.g. <a> tag: tag content < aria-label < title < href < ...?
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 03:48
    [poorgeek] @caesar sounds like you’re after https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria/roles#textalternativecomputation
  6. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 06:28
    [jessebeach] Thank you for confirming, @sitaggart , and for the detailed explanation
  7. [jessebeach] @sitaggart it's working in Safari with aria-selected set on the option
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 08:33
    [chrmiles] hi, wanted to introduce myself. my name is Christine. I'm learning a11y and live in Seattle area. Don't have much tech experience beyond HTML/some CSS, but I have multiple disabilities and a background in the disability field. I'm teaching myself through Deque University's curriculum for PWD, and the good old google :). If there are any Seattle area folks, I'd love to get to know you. For non-Seattle folks, if you have suggestions or resources to help me on the beginning of my journey I'd appreciate it. I'm "ChrisDisability" on twitter :)
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 10:07
    [lefthandev] Hello @chrisdisability , welcome : ) Not sure if you’ve come across this W3C resource before? It’s pretty useful. https://www.w3.org/standards/webdesign/accessibility
  10. Fiona Holder
    @FionaHolder
    Oct 21 10:08
    Welcome :)
  11. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 10:10
    [lefthandev] there’s also some technical WCAG tutorials here if you’re getting into coding > https://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 10:54
    [michiel] chrisdisability: the ARIA Authoring Practices Guide might prove useful: http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/
  13. [michiel] Also, I've heard rumours of an accessibility meetup being setup in Seattle.
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 11:07
    [jv] https://twitter.com/jameswillweb/status/789212365325828096
  15. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 11:12
    [chrisdisability] thank you. to all.
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 11:57
    [lefthandev] Would anyone be able to share a decent implementation ( on web ) of an autocomplete that works well with VoiceOver / Talkback?
  17. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 12:03
    [karlgroves] @lefthandev: http://jqueryui.com/resources/demos/autocomplete/default.html
  18. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 15:53
    [marcysutton] Hi @chrisdisability! I am a Seattle native who just moved north to Bellingham. Welcome to the group!
  19. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 16:08
    [marcysutton] The Seattle a11y meetup is here, I believe it is under new leadership: http://www.meetup.com/a11ysea/
  20. [wendykelly] I’ve been assigned to write about the connection between performance & a11y…so I am here to learn as much as I can.
    One great outcome is that from talking to design and dev colleagues, I understand that a11y is really considered just “doing your job” now. I think the hard work of lots of advocates is paying off...
  21. [jv] Is <main> still advisable to use?
  22. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 16:13
    [marcysutton] jv - yes. But if you're supporting browsers <= IE11 you would still need to bolt on role="main" to expose the semantics
  23. [jv] like <main role=”main">
  24. [marcysutton] @wendykelly you might be interested in a post I wrote on that subject https://marcysutton.com/accessibility-and-performance/
  25. [marcysutton] @karlgroves also knows a lot about it! He did a great talk on it at Fronteers Spring Thing last year
  26. [marcysutton] @jv - yep exactly. You can also reference http://html5accessibility.com
  27. [karlgroves] @marcysutton Thanks for the nice words, but your talk took on a lot of important technical considerations.
  28. [marcysutton] I thought your talk did a particularly good job making the case of why you should never try to roll your own <select>
  29. [karlgroves] not gonna lie. I like driving that particular point home. ;)
  30. [doeg] Oh, that sounds really interesting. Do you have a video of your talk up anywhere, @karlgroves?
  31. [wendykelly] I’ve seen/read your talk, Marcy — thank you :) I actually jumped over to that AMA and asked you there :)
    It was soooo helpful…I’m kind of star struck :)
    I’d love to ask you, @karlgroves, too about this. Super interesting topic, IMO
  32. [marcysutton] aww, awesome. I'm so glad that was helpful to you!
  33. [karlgroves] @wendykelly https://vimeo.com/163074780
  34. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 16:19
    [wendykelly] Super cool when I get to write about stuff like this where it’s techy + making ppls lives better. Great intersection.
  35. [wendykelly] thx @karlgroves
  36. [wendykelly] Nice title! love it already :)
  37. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 16:27
    [jv] Is there a webpage which has barebone code examples of all HTML5 tags?
  38. [jv] I just want to test it with screen reader
  39. [jv] I found this for form element http://nativeformelements.com/
  40. [jv] Looking similar for every other element
  41. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 16:34
    [karlgroves] You should make one. It sounds like a useful resource
  42. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 16:45
    [michiel] stevefaulkner and I worked on https://github.com/MichielBijl/Nope.js a couple years back.
  43. [michiel] Never got really far.
  44. [michiel] On an unrelated note, anyone in Oxford tonight? I have an extra ticket to see Prof. Brian Cox Live.
  45. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Oct 21 17:24
    [jv] What happened to webplatforms?

  46. [jv] Opens a W3C page and saw this message

    This document has been discontinued and is only made available for historical purposes. For an up to date reference on HTML elements (and more) please consult Web Platform Docs.

  47. [jv] Went to Web platform docs and saw this notice

    The WebPlatform project has been discontinued when the Stewards partnership agreement ended in September 2015. This site has been frozen, and the assets we have created will remain.

  48. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Oct 21 21:18
    https://github.com/mar10/fancytree/issues/652#issuecomment-255451581
  49. Am I missing something with why he is saying it's okay to ignore double-click handling?