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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 6th of February 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 06:32
    [varya] Hello. What ARIA role could you recommend for a clickable map pin? I tried to find what popular map services use (like Google.Maps, Here, and some local), and to my surprise none of them use any aria attribute in their map interface.
  2. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 09:00
    [alastc] It probably depends what functionality the pin has, I wouldn’t assume there is an ARIA role for a map pin (given that ARIA bridges from typical OS roles, and AFAIK operating systems don’t have map-specific functionality). If the pin takes you somewhere, link (as in <a>), if it opens a panel, <button>...
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 09:55
    [varya] Thank you!
  4. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 14:18
    [dylanb] Have y’all noticed the Slack thread functionality? Seems very useful for collating the posts that are relevant and not jamming the channel. Anyone using a screen reader try to use this functionality or want to do some experimentation?
  5. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 14:48
    [alastc] I’ve tried it a couple of times, the main impact (usability wise) is that it’s easy to miss a large topic of conversation. Unless the volume goes up a lot, probably best to stick to the main stream.
  6. Mallory
    @StommePoes
    Feb 06 15:15
    I'm using gitter so I don't notice anything. Although there are a lot of picture icon buttons I'm not inclined to try to guess wtf they do and maybe one of them does something. But again, as a lazy user, I have no incentive to find out.
  7. The desktop size has plenty of room to label buttons. They simply choose not to.
  8. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Feb 06 16:03
    Would <figure><button><img></button><figcaption>...</figcaption></figure> break anything? We have a situation where I believe a figcaption makes sense, but we'd like the img to reveal something and thus a button for it makes sense too
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 17:00

    [joe-watkins] @powrsurg If you are hiding the content that you are ‘revealing’ from AT (display:none;’) you may consider using <a href=”#unique-id-of-element-to-be-revealed”><img></a> `<figcaption tabindex=”-1”>.. This would send focus to that content for AT and thinking w/Progressive Enhancement in mind work without JavaScript.

    With offscreen navs - accordions etc I lean <a> because AT focus is going to need to be sent there (much like visual focus). Of course it all depends on how you wanna mark things up, and all UI’s/Situations are different,.. but I’ve found when authoring markup with Progressive Enhancement in mind <button> usage drops.

    Again,.. every situation is different but a fragment identifier in an <a> just works. I do believe markup requirements for <figure>\ loosen up a bit in HTML 5.2 spec.

  10. [joe-watkins] https://w3c.github.io/html/grouping-content.html#the-figure-element
  11. powrsurg
    @powrsurg
    Feb 06 17:03
    We have two situations: 1 where the figcaption is being revealed, the other is potentially a dialog
  12. actually I may be wrong that it's the figcaption, I should verify that
  13. I stand corrected, just some additional text
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 20:24
    [melsumner] Question: does anyone have experience with IE zoom issues when using SVGs as the background in a CSS pseudo element (like :before)
  15. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 21:43
    [melsumner] Answer to my own question: I'm totally giving up on this idea right now, the answer ends up being too complex to provide more business value than a simple PNG does, and solving this will be a hobby.
  16. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 22:37
    [cameron] friends, there was a twitter client recently that announced support for alt text (in the category of Buffer App)
  17. [cameron] anyone recall which one?
  18. [cordelia] EasyChirp now visually displays alternative text: https://twitter.com/EasyChirp/status/828267544184098817
  19. [cordelia] Was that it? Or is there another one? very excited
  20. [cameron] different one, but also very excited :)
  21. [cordelia] Ah that’s awesome! I’d love to know what it is, too
  22. [cordelia] I also think it’d be cool if Twitter enabled alt text by default… It’s been about a year now.
  23. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 22:42
    [cameron] are there really no popular delayed social media applications that support delayed alt text? looks like Buffer is in the works, no deets on Hootsuite.
  24. [cameron] does Twitter's own scheduled tweets support it?
  25. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 22:49
    [cordelia] @twitter mostly posts gifs, which i believe don’t have alt text support
  26. [cordelia] oooh sorry, i misread your question
  27. [cameron] @cordelia I'm thinking about scheduling tweets
  28. [cameron] no worries :)
  29. [cordelia] haha nevermind then!
  30. [cordelia] i missed the “scheduled” in your question, whoops
  31. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Feb 06 23:40
    [sitaggart] @michiel or anyone in the know, is https://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/ supposed to be pointing to the editors draft now? I assumed the github url was the draft version only