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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 23rd of September 2017

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 00:16
    [charlie] Hello. UI question. We are creating a compare tool. If you select 2 items, you can click COMPARE to view them side by side. Our developer is suggesting a pattern where, as you click one, it brings up a bar at the bottom of the viewport showing the items selected & the button to activate the comparison. He is suggesting using "Viewport Fixed" with "Bottom=0". The question: If someone has zoomed in, will the bar lock to their viewport? Or is this not a recommended accessible pattern? Thank you!
  2. [charlie] DTL CompareBar.png
  3. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 00:24
    [ugi] @charlie It depends. If the user is enlarging the content using browser’s native zoom function, or by altering the font size, the bar will remain fixed to the bottom. It won’t, if user is enlarging the whole screen using a screen magnifier tool.
  4. [ugi] Also, there’s a good chance the bar will cover most of the screen estate on smaller resolutions, when zoomed.
  5. [charlie] Thank you!
  6. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 00:34
    [charlie] @ugi Is there a comparison tool pattern you recommend?
  7. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 13:59
    [vyku] I am confused with the way an error message works in my site. We have a client side error that shows right below the edit field. When user tab down error pops up and focus goes to the error message and read please enter a valid user name. My doubt is when the error is announced to the user the focus is on error message not in the edit field. I feel like user will be start typing there. Is it a vialation? How do we keep the focus in the edit field and read the error ?
  8. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 17:07
    [jv] Does anyone know how to ask question about CSS to W3C?
  9. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 18:52
    [droidpinkman] How does some of you feel about element queries especially when u need JS for them to work? Are there any fears or concerns you would have?
  10. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 20:54
    [andreafrost] Hello everyone, greetings from Accessibility Camp Seattle 2017!!
  11. [i.am.simplesthing] :ocean:
  12. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 21:30
    [svinkle] @vyku Check this out for a potential solution to your error message question:
    https://web-a11y.slack.com/archives/C042TSFGN/p1504729445000479
  13. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 21:42
    [svinkle] @droidpinkman How would using element queries tie in with accessibility? In the same light as flexbox and grid, ensuring that visual layout matches DOM order, I think this would be the main concern? You have other thoughts?
  14. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 23:36

    [andreafrost] Quote from Bill Nordwall (hope I got that name right):

    It's not just about compliance and regulations and dotting the lowercase j's but actually it's about people as it always has been.

  15. zakim-robot
    @zakim-robot
    Sep 23 23:55
    [svinkle] That's it. thumbsup emoji Great quote, @andreafrost, thanks for sharing. :relaxed: