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A11y Slackers Gitter Channel Archive 28th of February 2016

What fresh hell is THIS now? - Patrick Lauke
  1. zakim-robot
    Feb 28 03:27
    [garcialo] @jonathantneal The original Slack room was set up by @marcysutton . @stevefaulkner and @alice did the testing and set up for the gitter and connection between the two
  2. zakim-robot
    Feb 28 03:28
    [garcialo] But it's the people that are in here everyday that keep it alive
  3. zakim-robot
    Feb 28 03:28
    [garcialo] cues the heartwarming music
  4. jonathantneal
    Feb 28 03:31
    What were the issues with Slack again? Something about invites? One day I just tried gitter, it worked fine, and haven’t felt a need to go back to Slack since.
  5. zakim-robot
    Feb 28 03:31
    [marcysutton] Mostly accessibility and archives
  6. jnurthen
    Feb 28 07:06
    Also some folks (like me) are blocked from slack by fire
  7. jnurthen
    Feb 28 07:07
    firewalls.
  8. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 08:53
    @jonathantneal here is story of #a11yslackers gitter https://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2015/07/anybody-can-be-an-a11y-slacker/
  9. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 08:56
    @jonathantneal #a11yslackers channel archive http://w3c.github.io/a11ySlackers/archives/index.html
  10. MichielBijl
    Feb 28 09:41
    @stevefaulkner, you can sell my soul for the extra pipe if you want…
  11. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 09:50
    @MichielBijl only you can sell your soul
  12. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 09:51
    or cough up the $$$
  13. MichielBijl
    Feb 28 09:52
    I'll see if I can IRC into it, I already pay IRCCloud…
  14. sophieschoice
    Feb 28 10:28
    For the Dutchies: which synthesizer do you use for NVDA? At the moment I have the espeak synthesizer, but it sounds a bit robotic....
  15. StommePoes
    Feb 28 10:47
    @kevinchao89 1. re "Tried setting name or description on <ul>" aria-label seems to read out when placed on things with a sectioning-type role, but not on just anything. I think describedby comes into play when things get focus, not when virtual cursor gets there
    1. Re Hiding the bullet type with aria-hidden and role="presentation" didn't work <-- those aren't elements you can set aria-anything on, and they have no roles. The bullets are browser-generated content set by the list-style-type in CSS. To remove bullets you either need to set list-style: none to the li elements in CSS, or often setting the display type of li elements to something other than their default "display: list-item" (floating them, setting them to display: table or display: inline) will cause the browser to not render bullets.
      For nesting levels, I don't currently know of any commands but for a deeply nested list that doesn't use an ol (instead of UL) without numbering people are just mentally keeping track of how far in they are.
    2. Re is there a method to navigate to first <li> in <ul>? <-- I don't know of one, unless someone has created such a thing with like a JAWS script or similar.
  16. jonathantneal
    Feb 28 18:34
    I’m hiding some navigation items when the screen width can’t hold them. A button appears that lets you slide these overflowed navigation items in. Should the button get aria-haspopup="true"? Should the button get aria-expanded and toggle its value based on the visibility of the overflowed navigation items? Should the button get aria-controls, and should it have a value of the overflowed navigation or the parent navigation containing the regular and overflowed navigation? Should the overflowed navigation include aria-label="submenu"? All of the above? I’ve used some of these for dropdowns and others for hamburger menus, but I’m not sure where overflow navigation belongs.
  17. jonathantneal
    Feb 28 19:10
    I realize the label is irrelevant.
  18. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 19:51
    aria-expanded, unless the submenu is actually marked up as a menu
  19. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 19:52
    aria-controls is not really needed if the read/focus order is contiguous with the button
  20. stevefaulkner
    Feb 28 19:52
    @jonathantneal ^^
  21. jonathantneal
    Feb 28 22:03
    :thumbsup: