Meeting minutes
Conclusion of Issue 2968: WCAG 3.2.3 Consistent Navigation in reflowable EPUB?
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Avneesh Singh: Conclusion of Issue 2968. In the last meeting, we discussed this and Charles reviewed SMART to identify WCAG SCs that may not apply well to EPUB.
… there has been further discussion in the issue. What are the next steps?
Gregorio P.: Charles noted there are no excluded SCs. I created a list with colleagues.
… identifying SCs that are edge cases; most pass for reflowable EPUBs.
… including SC 1.3.4, 1.3.2, 1.4.10, 3.2.6, and others like Redundant Entry and Accessible Authentication.
… we discussed this with Matt; the idea is to provide guidance on how these apply to EPUB.
… listing edge cases for creators and evaluators.
… possibly contributing to WCAG Understanding.
… for now, include in techniques.
Avneesh Singh: This is mainly for Matt to guide on clarification.
Matt G.: Explain that issues are unlikely; that’s what SMART does.
… though there is always a chance.
… focus on typical issues.
Matt G.: No need to search for unlikely issues.
… we need to refine wording.
… SCs technically apply but are uncommon.
… highlight in techniques.
Avneesh Singh: This guidance helps future professionals.
Matt G.: Avoid excluding SCs broadly.
… applicability varies by ecosystem.
Avneesh Singh: EPUB is broad; guidance is needed.
Wendy Reid: FXL lists key SCs.
… techniques could list less common ones for reflow.
… e.g., authentication, error messages.
Gregorio P.: WCAG Understanding already includes context-based interpretation.
… examples of applicability.
… we clarify, not extend.
Matt G.: Avoid telling people to ignore SCs.
… but edge-case explanation is fine.
… examples help.
Avneesh Singh: Agreement: provide examples and guidance.
… Matt to draft.
Gregorio P.: Happy to help.
Matt G.: Will adapt SMART content and draft guidance.
Continue refinement of FXL accessibility documents.
Avneesh Singh: Further improvements to FXL documents.
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Avneesh Singh: PR is merged; new improvements can be proposed.
Gregorio P.: PR addressed some issues; others remain open.
… more PRs planned.
Wendy Reid: Closed only issues covered by PR; others pending review.
Avneesh Singh: Next step is PRs; will link minutes to issues.
… any help needed?
Wendy Reid: Gregorio can take tables; I’ll handle navigation edits.
Issue 2980: SC 1.4.10 Reflow applicability to EPUB Fixed Layout publications
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Avneesh Singh: Gregorio, can you provide background?
Gregorio P.: SC 1.4.10 (Reflow) requires content to adapt without loss when viewport shrinks.
… exceptions include 2D layouts.
… FXL cannot reflow due to fixed viewport.
… most FXL falls under exemption.
… opened issue for clarity.
Matt G.: Difficult SC.
… applies where layout cannot change without loss.
… FXL fits that case.
… but not all layout is essential.
Matt G.: Choosing FXL unnecessarily reduces accessibility.
… EPUB systems cannot adapt layout.
… some FXL exempt, not all.
Gregorio P.: Zoom-based compliance might help.
… if single-direction scroll works, SC may pass.
Avneesh Singh: Concern for mobile use.
Gregorio P.: Requirement: 200% zoom without loss.
Wendy Reid: Partially addressed in document.
Gregorio P.: Reading systems play major role; docs are mostly sufficient.
Gregorio P.: Key question: is AA compliance possible? Likely not for FXL.
Wendy Reid: We should state that clearly.
Avneesh Singh: Transparency is important.
Wendy Reid: Earlier documents were less explicit.
Gregorio P.: All SCs can be met except 1.4.10.
… due to format limitations.
Avneesh Singh: We should explore future solutions.
Wendy Reid: Will draft text.
Avneesh Singh: AOB?