Publishing Steering Committee Telco — Minutes

Date: 2018-03-09

Attendees

Present: Jun-ichi Yoshii, George Kerscher, Bill McCoy, Bill Kasdorf, Luc Audrain, Ivan Herman, Liisa McCloy-Kelley, Rachel Comerford, Tzviya Siegman, Daihei Shiohama

Regrets: Dave Cramer, Rick Johnson

Guests:

Chair: Luc Audrain

Scribe(s): Tzviya Siegman, Luc Audrain

1. EPUB 3.2

Luc Audrain: We gave the BG 2 weeks to review the EPUB 3.2 document, and we hope that we will come to consensus on Tuesday
… Should we send a 72 hour CfC? Or is sufficient to tell CG to proceed?

Ivan Herman: we should do CfC

Bill McCoy: opinion on how the CG would report to the BG after endorsement
… is there any form?

Ivan Herman: there is a way to do that
… we will ask Matt
… take another report as a model
… Like JSON 1.1

Bill McCoy: https://json-ld.org/spec/latest/json-ld/

Bill McCoy: put a line like « Approved by the PBG… »

Tzviya Siegman: keep in mind last Tuesday proposal from Ivan

Subopic: ISO

George Kerscher: a11y standardization moving forward in parallel with EPUB 3.2
… wonderful France will be contributing in SC34

Bill Kasdorf: I believe Cristina said that Italy would follow France’s lead

George Kerscher: any other people in US?

Bill Kasdorf: no longer in NISO

George Kerscher: should we get in touch with NISO?

Liisa McCloy-Kelley: PRH is a member of NISO

Ivan Herman: finalize EPUB 3.2 and move it ISO?

Luc Audrain: Yes

Ivan Herman: ISO has it’s own terminology
… These two should coordinate in a format in ISO « format » to reduce work

Bill Kasdorf: Francis Cave in PBG?

Luc Audrain: I will raise the question to him

George Kerscher: check for any copyright problem for kb IDPF a11y guidelines
… 2 sites are independent, and there is know cut and paste from the former work
… 2 options : move IDPF site down or say « this is no longer maintain » and redirect to the new siet

Bill McCoy: we plan to update the EPUB A11Y 1.0.
… New one would be a W3C document as 1.1

Bill Kasdorf: The other issue was any IP concerns wrt IDPF content

Bill McCoy: W3C is not abandoning EPUB3 a11y but is committed to EPUB3 a11y standardization

Rachel Comerford: we take advantage that this was available in IDPF, and move to W3C

2. IDPF Web site information

Tzviya Siegman: IDPF best practice should have asap a banner to go the DAISY knowledge base

Rachel Comerford: +1 to tzviya’s suggestion

Luc Audrain: +1

Bill Kasdorf: +1 to Tzviya. Same for the A11y 1.0 document

Tzviya Siegman: +1 to Liisa

Bill Kasdorf: Yes but I’m concerned about citations to the IPDF site instead of the proper W3C site

Tzviya Siegman: the a11y metadata is all completely out of date

Liisa McCloy-Kelley: a notice is not sufficient as it is accessed through detailed pages

Bill McCoy: IDPF site ha legacy stuff still valid
… migrate the current level stuff to a W3C repository and put a banner on IDPF

Bill McCoy: people should go a W3C or DAISY site

Tzviya Siegman: reason to a11y guideline is the doc people use the most
… starts with that so that people doesn’t do inaccurate coding because it hasn’t been updated

Bill McCoy: use a11y as a laboratory for moving to W3C

Bill McCoy: I volunteer to make so

George Kerscher: Matt can help you on this
… decision: put in a11y guidelines information to redirect to the kb in DAISY
… best practices are in dev in the CG

George Kerscher: has to be approved by the PBG

Bill McCoy: an agenda item for next PBG call
… 2mn topic on the DPUB summit

Bill McCoy: https://www.w3.org/blog/2018/03/digital-publishing-summit-in-berlin-16th-and-17th-of-may/

Bill McCoy: see blog post from Ivan

Liisa McCloy-Kelley: epubcheck funding bar ?
… we have hours from RicWright
… 160h/month, 90$/h

Liisa McCloy-Kelley: proposal to leave the site with every page on a11y marked. what for other pages?
… like the forum

George Kerscher: it is a good other place to direct people to the CG and other W3C group

Ivan Herman: separate discussion on that because of instead « killing » it, keep the IDPF site as part of the W3C activity
… remove thing on member, but keep it as it is natural for people to go there
… it’ worth discussion with communication W3C people
… there are some practicalities like name of IDPF…
… more straightforward, why not keeping it?

Tzviya Siegman: a11y stuff is pressing, the forum should be kept alive
… could be in W3C
… form should not be ignored, legacy documentation archived

Rachel Comerford: i’m willing to help

Bill Kasdorf: I wouldn’t take anything down right now

Liisa McCloy-Kelley: what about membership pages?

George Kerscher: serving customers better
… we can’t close down the site for now

3. Misc

Ivan Herman: warning on calling time for Asia and Europe

Bill Kasdorf: nominate Dahei and Yoshi as outstanding members

George Kerscher: find proper time for people to participate
… like for the affordance TF

Tzviya Siegman: one of the chair is in California

Luc Audrain: agenda item for specific call time for Asia