W3C

RDF-star

17 December 2021

Attendees

Present
AndyS, Doerthe, fabio_vitali, gatemezing, gkellogg, olaf, pchampin, rivettp, TallTed
Regrets
-
Chair
pchampin
Scribe
AndyS, pchampin

Meeting minutes

Announcements and newcomers

pchampin: out of date implementations removed - rust one updated

gkellogg: changes to test URIs.

<pchampin> https://twitter.com/MarcelOttoDE/status/1470355460117123074

Open actions

<pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aaction

<pchampin> update RDF* paper on arXiv

pchampin: Olaf updated the RDF* paper.
… action done

Publishing a final report

pchampin: Has a more formal standing as "final"
… license is slightly different.
… authors will be contacted to agree
… report copied to W3C website
… needs CG RDF-DEV action (DanBri)

<pchampin> Final specification agreement

pchampin: 2 decisions : publish as is ; publish as final report

<olaf> Apologies for being late!

<pchampin> PROPOSED: publish a new version of the CG report, as a 'final report'

<pchampin> +1

<gkellogg> +1

<fabio_vitali> +1

<AndyS> +1

<TallTed> +1

<gatemezing> +1

<Doerthe> +1

<olaf> +1 (and another +1 from Ora who sends his regrets for today)

<rivettp> +1

Resolution: publish a new version of the CG report, as a 'final report'

<olaf> Yay!

<fabio_vitali> congratulations!

tallted: we can still respond with issues and PRs

pchampin: yes - not immutable

AndyS: this does apply also to the tests?

gkellogg: no, the tests are independant

WG chartering

<pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg-charter/

<pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg-charter/issues

<pchampin> RDF/XML

pchampin: RDF/XML - mark as optional work
… a few people have expressed interest in doing the work.

gatemezing: is there a way to phrase the feedback/interest in RDF/XML.

pchampin: will have "update that doc if WG has time/volunteers to do the work"

fabio_vitali: wondering about RDF-star and named graphs

pchampin: spec allows quoted triples in named graphs
… abstract syntax covers graphs and datasets

AndyS: star-bit aside, named graphs in RDF are just containers
… if you want to add a vocabulary, you can
… but that adds assumptions that are not shared by everyone using named graphs

<pchampin> https://www.w3.org/TR/rdf11-datasets/

doerthe: important but rather broad to tackle here the moment (c.f. N3)

<fabio_vitali> Thanks Dörthe

pchampin: our spec refers to note about RDF datasets semantics from RDF 1.1.
… let's not make it requirement for the WG

AndyS: WG have a history of not strictly sticking to their charter
… I'm nervous about mentioning it in the charter; may give too high expectations
… And anyway I would be suprised if it didn't come up

<fabio_vitali> I think it is an inteersting + appropriate topic for this specific Wg. I would be surprised if it was proposed by some other ones

<pchampin> WG practice

pchampin: F2F meetings
… reflect the "new normal"

<pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg-charter/pull/4

<gatemezing> I don't understand the concept of "synchronize meeting"

<pchampin> guideline for added features

<olaf> Have to leave early today. I wish everyone nice and relaxing holidays!

<gatemezing> Enjoy olaf !

<pchampin> https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg-charter/pull/7

pchampin: CSVW and others

<pchampin> CSVW

pchampin: RDFa
… do not envisage separate WGs for these
… may be a lot of work
… AC and W3C mgt may be concerned
… (advice from IvanH)
… idea: plan for recharting as it becomes clear what docs may be touched.

<gatemezing> The group will probably upgrade the current SemWeb stack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web_Stack

gkellogg: work on RDFa (is there an active CG?) could be done by WG
… something for the recharter point?

Action: pchampin to implement Ivan Herman's proposal as described in https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg-charter/issues/6#issuecomment-986801681

<pchampin> liaisons

17: 00+00:00

pchampin: Next meeting -- 7th Jan.

<rivettp> +1 for 7 Jan

<gatemezing> Thanks all, and thanks the chairs

<AndyS> Bye!

<fabio_vitali> Ciao! Have a nice end-of-year period!

Summary of action items

  1. pchampin to implement Ivan Herman's proposal as described in https://github.com/w3c/rdf-star-wg-charter/issues/6#issuecomment-986801681

Summary of resolutions

  1. publish a new version of the CG report, as a 'final report'
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 142 (Tue Jun 1 16:59:13 2021 UTC).